From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, virtualization@lists.linux.dev,
Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 3/9] mm: add __GFP_PREZEROED flag and folio_test_clear_prezeroed()
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2026 11:04:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <da935245-9c75-4cf4-8a42-2c6328bd93f9@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260413163644-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
On 4/13/26 22:37, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2026 at 11:05:40AM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>> On 4/13/26 00:50, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>> The previous patch skips zeroing in post_alloc_hook() when
>>> __GFP_ZERO is used. However, several page allocation paths
>>> zero pages via folio_zero_user() or clear_user_highpage() after
>>> allocation, not via __GFP_ZERO.
>>>
>>> Add __GFP_PREZEROED gfp flag that tells post_alloc_hook() to
>>> preserve the MAGIC_PAGE_ZEROED sentinel in page->private so the
>>> caller can detect pre-zeroed pages and skip its own zeroing.
>>> Add folio_test_clear_prezeroed() helper to check and clear
>>> the sentinel.
>>
>> I really don't like __GFP_PREZEROED, and wonder how we can avoid it.
>>
>>
>> What you want is, allocate a folio (well, actually a page that becomes
>> a folio) and know whether zeroing for that folio (once we establish it
>> from a page) is still required.
>>
>> Or you just allocate a folio, specify GFP_ZERO, and let the folio
>> allocation code deal with that.
>>
>>
>> I think we have two options:
>>
>> (1) Use an indication that can be sticky for callers that do not care.
>>
>> Assuming we would use a page flag that is only ever used on folios, all
>> we'd have to do is make sure that we clear the flag once we convert
>> the to a folio.
>>
>> For example, PG_dropbehind is only ever set on folios in the pagecache.
>>
>> Paths that allocate folios would have to clear the flag. For non-hugetlb
>> folios that happens through page_rmappable_folio().
>>
>> I'm not super-happy about that, but it would be doable.
>>
>>
>> (2) Use a dedicated allocation interface for user pages in the buddy.
>>
>> I hate the whole user_alloc_needs_zeroing()+folio_zero_user() handling.
>>
>> It shouldn't exist. We should just be passing GFP_ZERO and let the buddy handle
>> all that.
>>
>>
>> For example, vma_alloc_folio() already gets passed the address in.
>>
>> Pass the address from vma_alloc_folio_noprof()->folio_alloc_noprof(), and let
>> folio_alloc_noprof() use a buddy interface that can handle it.
>>
>> Imagine if we had a alloc_user_pages_noprof() that consumes an address. It could just
>> do what folio_zero_user() does, and only if really required.
>>
>> The whole user_alloc_needs_zeroing() could go away and you could just handle the
>> pre-zeroed optimization internally.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>>
>> David
>
> I admit I only vaguely understand the core mm refactoring you are suggesting.
>
Oh, I was hoping claude would figure that out for you.
Essentially, we move the zeroing of folios back into the buddy, by using
GFP_ZERO.
user_alloc_needs_zeroing() logic would reside in the buddy and is no longer
required in callers.
E.g.,
diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
index 631205a384e1..44576ba3def5 100644
--- a/mm/memory.c
+++ b/mm/memory.c
@@ -5259,7 +5259,7 @@ static struct folio *alloc_anon_folio(struct vm_fault *vmf)
gfp = vma_thp_gfp_mask(vma);
while (orders) {
addr = ALIGN_DOWN(vmf->address, PAGE_SIZE << order);
- folio = vma_alloc_folio(gfp, order, vma, addr);
+ folio = vma_alloc_folio(gfp | GFP_ZERO, order, vma, addr);
if (!folio)
goto next;
if (mem_cgroup_charge(folio, vma->vm_mm, gfp)) {
@@ -5272,15 +5272,6 @@ static struct folio *alloc_anon_folio(struct vm_fault *vmf)
goto fallback;
}
folio_throttle_swaprate(folio, gfp);
- /*
- * When a folio is not zeroed during allocation
- * (__GFP_ZERO not used) or user folios require special
- * handling, folio_zero_user() is used to make sure
- * that the page corresponding to the faulting address
- * will be hot in the cache after zeroing.
- */
- if (user_alloc_needs_zeroing())
- folio_zero_user(folio, vmf->address);
return folio;
next:
count_mthp_stat(order, MTHP_STAT_ANON_FAULT_FALLBACK);
folio_zero_user(), from where we would extract a function that operates on a
page+order chunk, requires the address hint.
So we would have to pass that address. For example for the !CONFIG_NUMA case,
something like the following could be done.
diff --git a/include/linux/gfp.h b/include/linux/gfp.h
index 51ef13ed756e..29771c3240be 100644
--- a/include/linux/gfp.h
+++ b/include/linux/gfp.h
@@ -234,6 +234,10 @@ struct folio *__folio_alloc_noprof(gfp_t gfp, unsigned int order, int preferred_
nodemask_t *nodemask);
#define __folio_alloc(...) alloc_hooks(__folio_alloc_noprof(__VA_ARGS__))
+struct folio *__folio_alloc_user_noprof(gfp_t gfp, unsigned int order, int preferred_nid,
+ nodemask_t *nodemask, unsigned long addr);
+#define __folio_alloc_user(...) alloc_hooks(__folio_alloc_user_noprof(__VA_ARGS__))
+
unsigned long alloc_pages_bulk_noprof(gfp_t gfp, int preferred_nid,
nodemask_t *nodemask, int nr_pages,
struct page **page_array);
@@ -291,6 +295,18 @@ __alloc_pages_node_noprof(int nid, gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned int order)
#define __alloc_pages_node(...) alloc_hooks(__alloc_pages_node_noprof(__VA_ARGS__))
+static inline
+struct folio *__folio_alloc_user_node_noprof(gfp_t gfp, unsigned int order,
+ int nid, unsigned long addr)
+{
+ VM_BUG_ON(nid < 0 || nid >= MAX_NUMNODES);
+ warn_if_node_offline(nid, gfp);
+
+ return __folio_alloc_user_noprof(gfp, order, nid, NULL, addr);
+}
+
+#define __folio_alloc_user_node(...) alloc_hooks(__folio_alloc_user_node_noprof(__VA_ARGS__))
+
static inline
struct folio *__folio_alloc_node_noprof(gfp_t gfp, unsigned int order, int nid)
{
@@ -342,7 +358,7 @@ static inline struct folio *folio_alloc_mpol_noprof(gfp_t gfp, unsigned int orde
static inline struct folio *vma_alloc_folio_noprof(gfp_t gfp, int order,
struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned long addr)
{
- return folio_alloc_noprof(gfp, order);
+ return __folio_alloc_user_node_noprof(gfp, order, numa_node_id(), addr);
}
#endif
index ee81f5c67c18..28f448f40b75 100644
--- a/mm/page_alloc.c
+++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
@@ -5260,6 +5260,13 @@ struct folio *__folio_alloc_noprof(gfp_t gfp, unsigned int order, int preferred_
}
EXPORT_SYMBOL(__folio_alloc_noprof);
+struct folio *__folio_alloc_user_noprof(gfp_t gfp, unsigned int order, int preferred_nid,
+ nodemask_t *nodemask, unsigned long addr)
+{
+ /* TODO */
+}
+EXPORT_SYMBOL(__folio_alloc_noprof);
+
/*
* Common helper functions. Never use with __GFP_HIGHMEM because the returned
* address cannot represent highmem pages. Use alloc_pages and then kmap if
As alloc_user_pages() resides in the buddy, it can just honor any
buddy-internal "pre-zeroed" flag.
Once you are in page_alloc.c you can access internal allocation functions and
take care of that without GFP flags.
--
Cheers,
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-14 9:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-12 22:50 [PATCH RFC 0/9] mm/virtio: skip redundant zeroing of host-zeroed reported pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-12 22:50 ` [PATCH RFC 1/9] mm: page_alloc: propagate PageReported flag across buddy splits Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-13 19:11 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-13 20:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-14 9:08 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-12 22:50 ` [PATCH RFC 2/9] mm: page_reporting: skip redundant zeroing of host-zeroed reported pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-13 8:00 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-13 8:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-13 8:15 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-13 8:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-13 20:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-14 9:18 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-14 10:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-14 15:32 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-14 15:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-12 22:50 ` [PATCH RFC 3/9] mm: add __GFP_PREZEROED flag and folio_test_clear_prezeroed() Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-13 9:05 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-13 20:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-14 9:04 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-04-14 10:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-14 15:46 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-13 21:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-13 22:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-13 23:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-14 9:06 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-12 22:50 ` [PATCH RFC 4/9] mm: skip zeroing in vma_alloc_zeroed_movable_folio for pre-zeroed pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-12 22:50 ` [PATCH RFC 5/9] mm: skip zeroing in alloc_anon_folio " Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-12 22:50 ` [PATCH RFC 6/9] mm: skip zeroing in vma_alloc_anon_folio_pmd " Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-12 22:51 ` [PATCH RFC 7/9] mm: hugetlb: skip zeroing of pre-zeroed hugetlb pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-12 22:51 ` [PATCH RFC 8/9] mm: page_reporting: add flush parameter to trigger immediate reporting Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-12 22:51 ` [PATCH RFC 9/9] virtio_balloon: a hack to enable host-zeroed page optimization Michael S. Tsirkin
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