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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, virtualization@lists.linux.dev,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 2/9] mm: page_reporting: skip redundant zeroing of host-zeroed reported pages
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2026 06:22:01 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260414062015-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <244c9779-b4a5-4d0f-9eb9-ef0ec873e0f6@kernel.org>

On Tue, Apr 14, 2026 at 11:18:02AM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> On 4/13/26 22:35, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 13, 2026 at 10:00:58AM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> >> On 4/13/26 00:50, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>> When a guest reports free pages to the hypervisor via the page reporting
> >>> framework (used by virtio-balloon and hv_balloon), the host typically
> >>> zeros those pages when reclaiming their backing memory.  However, when
> >>> those pages are later allocated in the guest, post_alloc_hook()
> >>> unconditionally zeros them again if __GFP_ZERO is set.  This
> >>> double-zeroing is wasteful, especially for large pages.
> >>>
> >>> Avoid redundant zeroing by propagating the "host already zeroed this"
> >>> information through the allocation path:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Add a host_zeroes_pages flag to page_reporting_dev_info, allowing
> >>>    drivers to declare that their host zeros reported pages on reclaim.
> >>>    A static key (page_reporting_host_zeroes) gates the fast path.
> >>>
> >>> 2. In page_del_and_expand(), when the page was reported and the
> >>>    static key is enabled, stash a sentinel value (MAGIC_PAGE_ZEROED)
> >>>    in page->private.
> >>>
> >>> 3. In post_alloc_hook(), check page->private for the sentinel.  If
> >>>    present and zeroing was requested (but not tag zeroing), skip
> >>>    kernel_init_pages().
> >>>
> >>> In particular, __GFP_ZERO is used by the x86 arch override of
> >>> vma_alloc_zeroed_movable_folio.
> >>>
> >>> No driver sets host_zeroes_pages yet; a follow-up patch to
> >>> virtio_balloon is needed to opt in.
> >>>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> >>> Assisted-by: Claude:claude-opus-4-6
> >>> ---
> >>>  include/linux/mm.h             |  6 ++++++
> >>>  include/linux/page_reporting.h |  3 +++
> >>>  mm/page_alloc.c                | 21 +++++++++++++++++++++
> >>>  mm/page_reporting.c            |  9 +++++++++
> >>>  mm/page_reporting.h            |  2 ++
> >>>  5 files changed, 41 insertions(+)
> >>>
> >>> diff --git a/include/linux/mm.h b/include/linux/mm.h
> >>> index 5be3d8a8f806..59fc77c4c90e 100644
> >>> --- a/include/linux/mm.h
> >>> +++ b/include/linux/mm.h
> >>> @@ -4814,6 +4814,12 @@ static inline bool user_alloc_needs_zeroing(void)
> >>>  				   &init_on_alloc);
> >>>  }
> >>>  
> >>> +/*
> >>> + * Sentinel stored in page->private to indicate the page was pre-zeroed
> >>> + * by the hypervisor (via free page reporting).
> >>> + */
> >>> +#define MAGIC_PAGE_ZEROED	0x5A45524FU	/* ZERO */
> >>
> >> Why are we not using another page flag that is yet unused for buddy pages?
> >>
> >> Using page->private for that, and exposing it to buddy users with the
> >> __GFP_PREZEROED flag (I hope we can avoid that) does not sound
> >> particularly elegant.
> > 
> > 
> > So here's an only alternative I see: a page flag for when page is in
> > buddy and a new "prezero" bool that we have to propagate everywhere
> > else. This is a patch on top. More elegant? Please tell me if you prefer that.
> > If yes I will squash it into the appropriate patches.
> 
> I'd be interesting to know how this would look without the GFP flag,
> when we don't have to leak any of this out of the buddy.
> 
> -- 
> Cheers,
> 
> David

But the zeroing takes place outside of the buddy now, it's more
"reporting" than "leaking".

You mean, moving the zeroing into buddy?

See

https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260413184022-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org/


-- 
MST



  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-14 10:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-12 22:50 [PATCH RFC 0/9] mm/virtio: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-12 22:50 ` [PATCH RFC 1/9] mm: page_alloc: propagate PageReported flag across buddy splits Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-13 19:11   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-13 20:32     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-14  9:08       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-12 22:50 ` [PATCH RFC 2/9] mm: page_reporting: skip redundant zeroing of host-zeroed reported pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-13  8:00   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-13  8:10     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-13  8:15       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-13  8:29         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-13 20:35     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-14  9:18       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-14 10:22         ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2026-04-14 15:32           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-14 15:36             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-12 22:50 ` [PATCH RFC 3/9] mm: add __GFP_PREZEROED flag and folio_test_clear_prezeroed() Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-13  9:05   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-13 20:37     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-14  9:04       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-14 10:29         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-14 15:46           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-13 21:37     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-13 22:06     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-13 23:43       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-14  9:06         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-12 22:50 ` [PATCH RFC 4/9] mm: skip zeroing in vma_alloc_zeroed_movable_folio for pre-zeroed pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-12 22:50 ` [PATCH RFC 5/9] mm: skip zeroing in alloc_anon_folio " Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-12 22:50 ` [PATCH RFC 6/9] mm: skip zeroing in vma_alloc_anon_folio_pmd " Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-12 22:51 ` [PATCH RFC 7/9] mm: hugetlb: skip zeroing of pre-zeroed hugetlb pages Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-12 22:51 ` [PATCH RFC 8/9] mm: page_reporting: add flush parameter to trigger immediate reporting Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-04-12 22:51 ` [PATCH RFC 9/9] virtio_balloon: a hack to enable host-zeroed page optimization Michael S. Tsirkin

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