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From: Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com>
To: kasong@tencent.com
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	Yuanchu Xie <yuanchu@google.com>,  Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	 David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	 Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	 Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>, Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
	David Stevens <stevensd@google.com>,
	 Chen Ridong <chenridong@huaweicloud.com>,
	Leno Hou <lenohou@gmail.com>,  Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>,
	Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
	 Zicheng Wang <wangzicheng@honor.com>,
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	 Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>, Vernon Yang <vernon2gm@gmail.com>,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Qi Zheng <qi.zheng@linux.dev>,
	 Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 14/14] mm/vmscan: unify writeback reclaim statistic and throttling
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2026 00:57:10 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMgjq7DCn8p_yMMhiejFjX6sdybZKYOw8qJbq=+OCsZ=AfJnFA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260413-mglru-reclaim-v5-14-8eaeacbddc44@tencent.com>

On Mon, Apr 13, 2026 at 12:53 AM Kairui Song via B4 Relay
<devnull+kasong.tencent.com@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> From: Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>
>
> Currently MGLRU and non-MGLRU handle the reclaim statistic and
> writeback handling very differently, especially throttling.
> Basically MGLRU just ignored the throttling part.
>
> Let's just unify this part, use a helper to deduplicate the code
> so both setups will share the same behavior.
>
> Test using following reproducer using bash:
>
>   echo "Setup a slow device using dm delay"
>   dd if=/dev/zero of=/var/tmp/backing bs=1M count=2048
>   LOOP=$(losetup --show -f /var/tmp/backing)
>   mkfs.ext4 -q $LOOP
>   echo "0 $(blockdev --getsz $LOOP) delay $LOOP 0 0 $LOOP 0 1000" | \
>       dmsetup create slow_dev
>   mkdir -p /mnt/slow && mount /dev/mapper/slow_dev /mnt/slow
>
>   echo "Start writeback pressure"
>   sync && echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
>   mkdir /sys/fs/cgroup/test_wb
>   echo 128M > /sys/fs/cgroup/test_wb/memory.max
>   (echo $BASHPID > /sys/fs/cgroup/test_wb/cgroup.procs && \
>       dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/slow/testfile bs=1M count=192)
>
>   echo "Clean up"
>   echo "0 $(blockdev --getsz $LOOP) error" | dmsetup load slow_dev
>   dmsetup resume slow_dev
>   umount -l /mnt/slow && sync
>   dmsetup remove slow_dev
>
> Before this commit, `dd` will get OOM killed immediately if
> MGLRU is enabled. Classic LRU is fine.
>
> After this commit, throttling is now effective and no more spin on
> LRU or premature OOM. Stress test on other workloads also looking good.
>
> Global throttling is not here yet, we will fix that separately later.
>
> Suggested-by: Chen Ridong <chenridong@huaweicloud.com>
> Tested-by: Leno Hou <lenohou@gmail.com>
> Reviewed-by: Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>
> Reviewed-by: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
> Signed-off-by: Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>
> ---
>  mm/vmscan.c | 90 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---------------------------------
>  1 file changed, 41 insertions(+), 49 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> index a431f94ff3a3..43a3cadbb586 100644
> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> @@ -1942,6 +1942,44 @@ static int current_may_throttle(void)
>         return !(current->flags & PF_LOCAL_THROTTLE);
>  }
>
> +static void handle_reclaim_writeback(unsigned long nr_taken,
> +                                    struct pglist_data *pgdat,
> +                                    struct scan_control *sc,
> +                                    struct reclaim_stat *stat)
> +{
> +       /*
> +        * If dirty folios are scanned that are not queued for IO, it
> +        * implies that flushers are not doing their job. This can
> +        * happen when memory pressure pushes dirty folios to the end of
> +        * the LRU before the dirty limits are breached and the dirty
> +        * data has expired. It can also happen when the proportion of
> +        * dirty folios grows not through writes but through memory
> +        * pressure reclaiming all the clean cache. And in some cases,
> +        * the flushers simply cannot keep up with the allocation
> +        * rate. Nudge the flusher threads in case they are asleep.
> +        */
> +       if (stat->nr_unqueued_dirty == nr_taken && nr_taken) {

While doing self review, I noticed a small problem here: It should
return without updating the counters below if nr_taken == 0. Currently
it only skips the flusher.

We might see nr_taken == 0 because MGLRU has a retry logic: if
shrink_folio_list returned some folios for being dirty or writeback,
and, they became clean during that isolation time period, then MGLRU
will try call shrink_folio_list again without doing isolation again.

This patch is still fine with the retry here in most cases. But if a
folio was returned by shrink_folio_list for being dirty, then suddenly
became clean and triggered the retry, then became dirty again. Now the
counter below might be skewed since a dirty folio is counted twice.
Still this is not a big issue, and I couldn't find a way to
reproduce this even on purpose, since that requires a few really short
time windows to hit together, and the result is also hardly
observable. But for a 100% accuracy, I'll update this patch with:

diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
index 71b4ef0e6735..af14efbc0cd8 100644
--- a/mm/vmscan.c
+++ b/mm/vmscan.c
@@ -1958,7 +1958,7 @@ static void handle_reclaim_writeback(unsigned
long nr_taken,
         * the flushers simply cannot keep up with the allocation
         * rate. Nudge the flusher threads in case they are asleep.
         */
-       if (stat->nr_unqueued_dirty == nr_taken && nr_taken) {
+       if (stat->nr_unqueued_dirty == nr_taken) {
                wakeup_flusher_threads(WB_REASON_VMSCAN);
                /*
                 * For cgroupv1 dirty throttling is achieved by waking up
@@ -4830,7 +4830,9 @@ static int evict_folios(unsigned long
nr_to_scan, struct lruvec *lruvec,
 retry:
        reclaimed = shrink_folio_list(&list, pgdat, sc, &stat, false, memcg);
        sc->nr_reclaimed += reclaimed;
-       handle_reclaim_writeback(isolated, pgdat, sc, &stat);
+       /* Retry pass is only meant for clean folios without new isolation */
+       if (isolated)
+               handle_reclaim_writeback(isolated, pgdat, sc, &stat);
        trace_mm_vmscan_lru_shrink_inactive(pgdat->node_id,
                        type_scanned, reclaimed, &stat, sc->priority,
                        type ? LRU_INACTIVE_FILE : LRU_INACTIVE_ANON);

Then it should be perfect.

We might better just remove that retry logic completely later, it's
meant to avoid folio_rotate_reclaimable from missing isolated folios.
That should be done in a cleaner way. The current retry loop also may
lead to inaccurate tracepoint data, not a new or major problem so not
touching that part for now.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-18 16:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-12 16:48 [PATCH v5 00/14] mm/mglru: improve reclaim loop and dirty folio handling Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-12 16:48 ` [PATCH v5 01/14] mm/mglru: consolidate common code for retrieving evictable size Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-12 16:48 ` [PATCH v5 02/14] mm/mglru: rename variables related to aging and rotation Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-12 16:48 ` [PATCH v5 03/14] mm/mglru: relocate the LRU scan batch limit to callers Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-12 16:48 ` [PATCH v5 04/14] mm/mglru: restructure the reclaim loop Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-16  6:33   ` Barry Song
2026-04-16 18:47   ` Kairui Song
2026-04-12 16:48 ` [PATCH v5 05/14] mm/mglru: scan and count the exact number of folios Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-15  3:16   ` Baolin Wang
2026-04-16  7:01   ` Barry Song
2026-04-16 17:39     ` Kairui Song
2026-04-12 16:48 ` [PATCH v5 06/14] mm/mglru: use a smaller batch for reclaim Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-12 16:48 ` [PATCH v5 07/14] mm/mglru: don't abort scan immediately right after aging Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-16  7:32   ` Barry Song
2026-04-12 16:48 ` [PATCH v5 08/14] mm/mglru: remove redundant swap constrained check upon isolation Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-14  7:43   ` Chen Ridong
2026-04-15  3:19   ` Baolin Wang
2026-04-16  9:05   ` Barry Song
2026-04-12 16:48 ` [PATCH v5 09/14] mm/mglru: use the common routine for dirty/writeback reactivation Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-15  3:30   ` Baolin Wang
2026-04-16  9:18   ` Barry Song
2026-04-12 16:48 ` [PATCH v5 10/14] mm/mglru: simplify and improve dirty writeback handling Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-15  3:25   ` Baolin Wang
2026-04-12 16:48 ` [PATCH v5 11/14] mm/mglru: remove no longer used reclaim argument for folio protection Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-12 16:48 ` [PATCH v5 12/14] mm/vmscan: remove sc->file_taken Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-14  7:46   ` Chen Ridong
2026-04-12 16:48 ` [PATCH v5 13/14] mm/vmscan: remove sc->unqueued_dirty Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-14  7:46   ` Chen Ridong
2026-04-12 16:48 ` [PATCH v5 14/14] mm/vmscan: unify writeback reclaim statistic and throttling Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-18 16:57   ` Kairui Song [this message]
2026-04-17  2:51 ` [PATCH v5 00/14] mm/mglru: improve reclaim loop and dirty folio handling wangxinyu19
2026-04-17 17:52   ` Kairui Song
2026-04-18  7:17   ` wangzicheng
2026-04-18  8:16     ` Kairui Song
2026-04-18  9:08       ` wangzicheng
2026-04-18 11:50         ` Kairui Song
2026-04-18  8:55     ` Barry Song
2026-04-17  2:55 ` wangxinyu19

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