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From: Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>
To: kasong@tencent.com
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	Yuanchu Xie <yuanchu@google.com>,  Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	 David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	 Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	 Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	David Stevens <stevensd@google.com>,
	 Chen Ridong <chenridong@huaweicloud.com>,
	Leno Hou <lenohou@gmail.com>,  Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>,
	Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
	 Zicheng Wang <wangzicheng@honor.com>,
	Kalesh Singh <kaleshsingh@google.com>,
	 Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>, Vernon Yang <vernon2gm@gmail.com>,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Qi Zheng <qi.zheng@linux.dev>,
	 Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 07/14] mm/mglru: don't abort scan immediately right after aging
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2026 15:32:22 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGsJ_4wUvBZMbXA0sb_+TeGcpr=HjqMAPZS6WYyjU2wv5-+kHg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260413-mglru-reclaim-v5-7-8eaeacbddc44@tencent.com>

On Mon, Apr 13, 2026 at 12:48 AM Kairui Song via B4 Relay
<devnull+kasong.tencent.com@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> From: Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>
>
> Right now, if eviction triggers aging, the reclaimer will abort. This is
> not the optimal strategy for several reasons.
>
> Aborting the reclaim early wastes a reclaim cycle when under pressure,
> and for concurrent reclaim, if the LRU is under aging, all concurrent
> reclaimers might fail. And if the age has just finished, new cold folios
> exposed by the aging are not reclaimed until the next reclaim iteration.
>
> What's more, the current aging trigger is quite lenient, having 3 gens
> with a reclaim priority lower than default will trigger aging, and
> blocks reclaiming from one memcg. This wastes reclaim retry cycles
> easily. And in the worst case, if the reclaim is making slower progress
> and all following attempts fail due to being blocked by aging, it
> triggers unexpected early OOM.
>
> And if a lruvec requires aging, it doesn't mean it's hot. Instead, the
> lruvec could be idle for quite a while, and hence it might contain lots
> of cold folios to be reclaimed.
>
> While it's helpful to rotate memcg LRU after aging for global reclaim,
> as global reclaim fairness is coupled with the rotation in shrink_many,
> memcg fairness is instead handled by cgroup iteration in
> shrink_node_memcgs. So, for memcg level pressure, this abort is not the
> key part for keeping the fairness. And in most cases, there is no need
> to age, and fairness must be achieved by upper-level reclaim control.
>
> So instead, just keep the scanning going unless one whole batch of
> folios failed to be isolated or enough folios have been scanned, which
> is triggered by evict_folios returning 0. And only abort for global
> reclaim after one batch, so when there are fewer memcgs, progress is
> still made, and the fairness mechanism described above still works fine.
>
> And in most cases, the one more batch attempt for global reclaim might
> just be enough to satisfy what the reclaimer needs, hence improving
> global reclaim performance by reducing reclaim retry cycles.
>
> Rotation is still there after the reclaim is done, which still follows
> the comment in mmzone.h. And fairness still looking good.
>
> Reviewed-by: Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>
> Reviewed-by: Chen Ridong <chenridong@huaweicloud.com>
> Signed-off-by: Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>

Reviewed-by: Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>

> ---
>  mm/vmscan.c | 8 ++++++--
>  1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>


  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-16  7:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-12 16:48 [PATCH v5 00/14] mm/mglru: improve reclaim loop and dirty folio handling Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-12 16:48 ` [PATCH v5 01/14] mm/mglru: consolidate common code for retrieving evictable size Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-12 16:48 ` [PATCH v5 02/14] mm/mglru: rename variables related to aging and rotation Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-12 16:48 ` [PATCH v5 03/14] mm/mglru: relocate the LRU scan batch limit to callers Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-12 16:48 ` [PATCH v5 04/14] mm/mglru: restructure the reclaim loop Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-16  6:33   ` Barry Song
2026-04-16 18:47   ` Kairui Song
2026-04-12 16:48 ` [PATCH v5 05/14] mm/mglru: scan and count the exact number of folios Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-15  3:16   ` Baolin Wang
2026-04-16  7:01   ` Barry Song
2026-04-16 17:39     ` Kairui Song
2026-04-12 16:48 ` [PATCH v5 06/14] mm/mglru: use a smaller batch for reclaim Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-12 16:48 ` [PATCH v5 07/14] mm/mglru: don't abort scan immediately right after aging Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-16  7:32   ` Barry Song [this message]
2026-04-12 16:48 ` [PATCH v5 08/14] mm/mglru: remove redundant swap constrained check upon isolation Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-14  7:43   ` Chen Ridong
2026-04-15  3:19   ` Baolin Wang
2026-04-16  9:05   ` Barry Song
2026-04-12 16:48 ` [PATCH v5 09/14] mm/mglru: use the common routine for dirty/writeback reactivation Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-15  3:30   ` Baolin Wang
2026-04-16  9:18   ` Barry Song
2026-04-12 16:48 ` [PATCH v5 10/14] mm/mglru: simplify and improve dirty writeback handling Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-15  3:25   ` Baolin Wang
2026-04-12 16:48 ` [PATCH v5 11/14] mm/mglru: remove no longer used reclaim argument for folio protection Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-12 16:48 ` [PATCH v5 12/14] mm/vmscan: remove sc->file_taken Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-14  7:46   ` Chen Ridong
2026-04-12 16:48 ` [PATCH v5 13/14] mm/vmscan: remove sc->unqueued_dirty Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-14  7:46   ` Chen Ridong
2026-04-12 16:48 ` [PATCH v5 14/14] mm/vmscan: unify writeback reclaim statistic and throttling Kairui Song via B4 Relay
2026-04-17  2:51 ` [PATCH v5 00/14] mm/mglru: improve reclaim loop and dirty folio handling wangxinyu19
2026-04-17 17:52   ` Kairui Song
2026-04-18  7:17   ` wangzicheng
2026-04-18  8:16     ` Kairui Song
2026-04-18  9:08       ` wangzicheng
2026-04-18  8:55     ` Barry Song
2026-04-17  2:55 ` wangxinyu19

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