From: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
"David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>, Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>,
Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>, David Sterba <dsterba@suse.com>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>, Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>, Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 7.2 v2 05/12] mm/khugepaged: remove READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS check in hugepage_pmd_enabled()
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2026 08:49:36 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9c6e376e-1a91-4aaa-9918-ca161fe57130@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <68F85F77-8EFE-449D-B643-AEEB38CB50B2@nvidia.com>
On 4/16/26 2:01 AM, Zi Yan wrote:
> On 15 Apr 2026, at 5:21, Baolin Wang wrote:
>
>> On 4/15/26 4:00 PM, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>>> On 4/15/26 08:36, Baolin Wang wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/15/26 2:25 AM, Zi Yan wrote:
>>>>> On 14 Apr 2026, at 14:14, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, it would be better if we could avoid it. But the dependency on the
>>>>>> global toggle as it is today is a bit weird.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think there is other interaction with FS and the global toggle
>>>>>> besides this and the one you are adjusting, right?
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm afraid not. Please also consider the per-size mTHP interfaces. It's
>>>> possible that hugepage_global_enabled() returns false, but
>>>> hugepages-2048kB/enabled is set to "always", which would still allow
>>>> khugepaged to collapse folios.
>>
>> My comments are in reply to Zi’s comment:
>>
>> "I think hugepage_global_enabled() should be enough to decide whether khugepaged should run or not."
>>
>> I’m concerned that only relying on hugepage_global_enabled() to decide whether khugepaged should run would cause a regression for anonymous and shmem memory collapse, as it ignores per-size mTHP configuration.
>>
>>> The question is really which semantics we want.
>>>
>>> Right now, there is no way to disable khugepaged for anon pages, to just
>>> get them during page faults.
>>
>> Right.
>>
>>> And we are now talking about the same problem for FS: to only get them
>>> during page faults (like we did so far without CONFIG_READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS).
>>
>> OK. I’m fine with using hugepage_global_enabled() to determine whether khugepaged scans file folios.
>>
>> My concern is that for anonymous memory and shmem, the per-size mTHP settings should be considered.
>
> OK, I misunderstood the meaning of hugepage_global_enabled(), since per-size
> mTHP settings could also enable khugepaged if PMD_SIZE is set.
>
> I will take willy’s original suggestion and make khugepaged on if the global
> setting is enabled. The below is the new version of this patch. I moved anon
> pmd huge page code to a separate anon_hpage_pmd_enabled() like
> shmem_hpage_pmd_enabled() and cleaned up the comment. Let me know your thoughts.
>
> Thanks.
>
> From 92b92f2b2ab41c70b41dd304ce648786ee6a1603 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2026 13:52:50 -0400
> Subject: [PATCH] mm/khugepaged: remove READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS check in
> hugepage_pmd_enabled()
>
> Remove READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS and khugepaged for file-backed pmd-sized
> hugepages are enabled by the global transparent hugepage control.
> khugepaged can still be enabled by per-size control for anon and shmem when
> the global control is off.
>
> Signed-off-by: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
> ---
> mm/khugepaged.c | 26 +++++++++++++++-----------
> 1 file changed, 15 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/mm/khugepaged.c b/mm/khugepaged.c
> index b8452dbdb043..586d27ce896e 100644
> --- a/mm/khugepaged.c
> +++ b/mm/khugepaged.c
> @@ -406,18 +406,8 @@ static inline int collapse_test_exit_or_disable(struct mm_struct *mm)
> mm_flags_test(MMF_DISABLE_THP_COMPLETELY, mm);
> }
>
> -static bool hugepage_pmd_enabled(void)
> +static inline bool anon_hpage_pmd_enabled()
> {
> - /*
> - * We cover the anon, shmem and the file-backed case here; file-backed
> - * hugepages, when configured in, are determined by the global control.
> - * Anon pmd-sized hugepages are determined by the pmd-size control.
> - * Shmem pmd-sized hugepages are also determined by its pmd-size control,
> - * except when the global shmem_huge is set to SHMEM_HUGE_DENY.
> - */
> - if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS) &&
> - hugepage_global_enabled())
> - return true;
> if (test_bit(PMD_ORDER, &huge_anon_orders_always))
> return true;
> if (test_bit(PMD_ORDER, &huge_anon_orders_madvise))
> @@ -425,6 +415,20 @@ static bool hugepage_pmd_enabled(void)
> if (test_bit(PMD_ORDER, &huge_anon_orders_inherit) &&
> hugepage_global_enabled())
> return true;
> + return false;
> +}
> +
> +static bool hugepage_pmd_enabled(void)
> +{
> + /*
> + * Anon, shmem and file-backed pmd-sized hugepages are all determined by
> + * the global control. If the global control is off, anon and shmem
> + * pmd-sized hugepages are also determined by its per-size control.
> + */
> + if (hugepage_global_enabled())
> + return true;
> + if (anon_hpage_pmd_enabled())
> + return true;
> if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_SHMEM) && shmem_hpage_pmd_enabled())
> return true;
> return false;
Thanks. Looks reasonable to me. Let’s also see what David thinks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-16 0:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-13 19:20 [PATCH 7.2 v2 00/12] Remove read-only THP support for FSes without large folio support Zi Yan
2026-04-13 19:20 ` [PATCH 7.2 v2 01/12] mm/khugepaged: remove READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS check Zi Yan
2026-04-13 20:20 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-04-13 20:34 ` Zi Yan
2026-04-14 10:19 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-14 10:20 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-15 6:09 ` Baolin Wang
2026-04-14 10:29 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-14 15:37 ` Lance Yang
2026-04-14 15:43 ` Lance Yang
2026-04-14 15:59 ` Zi Yan
2026-04-13 19:20 ` [PATCH 7.2 v2 02/12] mm/khugepaged: add folio dirty check after try_to_unmap_flush() Zi Yan
2026-04-13 20:23 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-04-13 20:28 ` Zi Yan
2026-04-14 10:38 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-14 15:55 ` Zi Yan
2026-04-13 19:20 ` [PATCH 7.2 v2 03/12] mm/huge_memory: remove READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS from file_thp_enabled() Zi Yan
2026-04-14 10:40 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-14 15:59 ` Zi Yan
2026-04-15 6:17 ` Baolin Wang
2026-04-13 19:20 ` [PATCH 7.2 v2 04/12] mm: remove READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS Kconfig option Zi Yan
2026-04-14 10:40 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-15 6:20 ` Baolin Wang
2026-04-13 19:20 ` [PATCH 7.2 v2 05/12] mm/khugepaged: remove READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS check in hugepage_pmd_enabled() Zi Yan
2026-04-13 20:33 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-04-13 20:42 ` Zi Yan
2026-04-14 11:02 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-14 16:30 ` Zi Yan
2026-04-14 18:14 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-14 18:25 ` Zi Yan
2026-04-15 6:36 ` Baolin Wang
2026-04-15 8:00 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-15 9:21 ` Baolin Wang
2026-04-15 18:01 ` Zi Yan
2026-04-16 0:49 ` Baolin Wang [this message]
2026-04-13 19:20 ` [PATCH 7.2 v2 06/12] mm: fs: remove filemap_nr_thps*() functions and their users Zi Yan
2026-04-13 20:35 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-04-14 11:02 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-15 6:53 ` Baolin Wang
2026-04-13 19:20 ` [PATCH 7.2 v2 07/12] fs: remove nr_thps from struct address_space Zi Yan
2026-04-13 20:38 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-04-15 6:44 ` Baolin Wang
2026-04-13 19:20 ` [PATCH 7.2 v2 08/12] mm/huge_memory: remove folio split check for READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS Zi Yan
2026-04-13 20:41 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-04-13 20:46 ` Zi Yan
2026-04-14 11:03 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-15 6:47 ` Baolin Wang
2026-04-13 19:20 ` [PATCH 7.2 v2 09/12] mm/truncate: use folio_split() in truncate_inode_partial_folio() Zi Yan
2026-04-13 19:20 ` [PATCH 7.2 v2 10/12] fs/btrfs: remove a comment referring to READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS Zi Yan
2026-04-14 11:06 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-13 19:20 ` [PATCH 7.2 v2 11/12] selftests/mm: remove READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS in khugepaged Zi Yan
2026-04-14 11:06 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-13 19:20 ` [PATCH 7.2 v2 12/12] selftests/mm: remove READ_ONLY_THP_FOR_FS from comments in guard-regions Zi Yan
2026-04-13 20:47 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-04-13 20:51 ` Zi Yan
2026-04-13 22:28 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-04-14 11:09 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-14 16:45 ` Zi Yan
2026-04-14 17:40 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-04-14 17:53 ` Zi Yan
2026-04-14 11:07 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
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