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Useful? Who knows, but the potential is > certainly there. > > The summary didn't seem to take Rafael's last (fairly strongly > negative) email into account as much as maybe it should have been (my > first reaction was that maybe Rafael's last email hadn't made it into > the summary, but going back to it I think it was there, just not > nearly as forcefully as Rafael's email read to me). > > I personally would find it more intriguing still if it actually > reacted to the code instead of just the discussion, but I suspect > that's still some way away. > > IOW - interesting. But hard to tell how useful and how maintainers > would actually end up using it. > > Would it be something where when you bring a new developer into a long > discussion, you'd introduce him with a summary of what has gone > before? I'm not sure what the use cases would be in practice. > Konstantin, As I was watching the demo, the same thought popped into my head that this could be useful to a new developer. I am starting a mentoring session on March 1st with 34 new developers. Probably something we could experiment with to see if this helps them? thanks, -- Shuah