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From: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>
To: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/9] CodingStyle: make Documentation/CodingStyle into symlink
Date: Tue, 13 May 2025 22:26:12 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <da087640-494a-4803-b770-10758393bd80@p183> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250513190429.GH2023217@ZenIV>

On Tue, May 13, 2025 at 08:04:29PM +0100, Al Viro wrote:
> On Tue, May 13, 2025 at 09:33:34PM +0300, Alexey Dobriyan wrote:
> > On Tue, May 13, 2025 at 05:12:49AM +0100, Al Viro wrote:
> > > On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 07:08:53PM +0300, Alexey Dobriyan wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I split them like referendum ballots to see where the consensus at and
> > > > not have big single discussion thread.
> > > 
> > > Just in case - consensus would look like a lot of replies in support and not
> > > simply the lack of replies, right?
> > 
> > Well, it is l-k, so absence of NAKs counts as OK.
> 
> In your reality - perhaps...

Well, if nobody objects strongly, and maintainer agrees, then patch goes in.
And if patch went in, then it everyone else's problem to undo it?

Right?

> So absense of NAKs on l-k may or may not count as "OK" from your point of
> view, but it does not mean that there is any kind of consensus.  

Sure, but I can't force everyone to reply or vote so it is always
blurry.

Right now it is clear that Greg objects but I personally think
his counter-argument is weak.

He is basically saying that LOC count is too much so Linux should stick
to how things were always have been even if "old style" is objectively
inferior.

> More to the point, if your... suggestions would go into D/CodingStyle,
> replying to objections along the lines of "where the hell has that come
> from and when have I agreed to that?" with "why haven't you replied
> when I posted them to l-k?" is *NOT* likely to be well-received.

Al, this is not Debian where they vote so everyone knows when and
how everyone agreed to something.

If you wake up one day and see "struct inode" renamed to "Inode",
you have all the rights in the world to be upset about everything up
to and including not being in Cc.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-13 19:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-09 20:34 Alexey Dobriyan
2025-05-09 20:34 ` [PATCH 2/9] CodingStyle: delete explicit numbering Alexey Dobriyan
2025-05-12  9:06   ` Jani Nikula
2025-05-09 20:34 ` [PATCH 3/9] CodingStyle: advise on using "sysctl" in sysctl variables Alexey Dobriyan
2025-05-09 20:34 ` [PATCH 4/9] CodingStyle: mention "typedef struct S {} S;" if typedef is used Alexey Dobriyan
2025-05-10  6:18   ` Greg KH
2025-05-13 18:34     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2026-01-07 12:22       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-05-10 10:47   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-05-10 10:47     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-05-13 18:37     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2025-05-09 20:34 ` [PATCH 5/9] CodingStyle: institute better inline assembly formatting Alexey Dobriyan
2025-05-13 19:41   ` David Laight
2025-05-09 20:34 ` [PATCH 6/9] CodingStyle: recommend static_assert/_Static_assert Alexey Dobriyan
2025-05-10  6:21   ` Greg KH
2025-05-13 18:41     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2025-05-13 19:40   ` David Laight
2025-12-27 14:51     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2025-12-27 19:45       ` David Laight
2026-01-07 12:28   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-05-09 20:34 ` [PATCH 7/9] CodingStyle: new variable declaration placement rule Alexey Dobriyan
2026-01-07 12:28   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-05-09 20:34 ` [PATCH 8/9] CodingStyle: tell people how to split long "for" loops Alexey Dobriyan
2025-05-10 18:56   ` David Laight
2025-05-12 16:20     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2025-05-12 16:59       ` Greg KH
2025-05-12 19:09       ` David Laight
2026-01-07 12:29   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-05-09 20:34 ` [PATCH 9/9] CodingStyle: flip the rule about curlies Alexey Dobriyan
2025-05-09 21:44   ` Randy Dunlap
2025-05-10  6:18   ` Greg KH
2025-05-12 16:43     ` Jeff Johnson
2025-05-12 16:56       ` Greg KH
2025-05-13 19:06         ` Alexey Dobriyan
2025-05-15 16:33           ` Jeff Johnson
2026-01-07 12:29   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-01-07 12:32     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-05-09 20:40 ` [PATCH 1/9] CodingStyle: make Documentation/CodingStyle into symlink Ozgur Kara
2025-05-10 10:05 ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-05-12 16:08   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2025-05-12 16:57     ` Greg KH
2025-05-13 18:32       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2025-05-14 18:55         ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-05-13  4:12     ` Al Viro
2025-05-13 18:33       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2025-05-13 19:04         ` Al Viro
2025-05-13 19:26           ` Alexey Dobriyan [this message]
2025-05-13 19:50             ` Al Viro
2026-01-07 12:27         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-05-19 16:21 ` Pavel Machek

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