From: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>
To: David Laight <david.laight.linux@gmail.com>
Cc: corbet@lwn.net, workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/9] CodingStyle: recommend static_assert/_Static_assert
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2025 17:51:49 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c6f0c3d8-eb2b-49e1-b874-610fbeb248e4@p183> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250513204031.26f50209@pumpkin>
On Tue, May 13, 2025 at 08:40:31PM +0100, David Laight wrote:
> On Fri, 9 May 2025 23:34:27 +0300
> Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Linux's BUG_ON is done backwards (condition is inverted).
> > But it is a long story.
> >
> > However C11/C23 allow to partially transition to what all normal
> > programmers are used to, namely assert().
> >
> > Deprecate BUILD_BUG_ON, recommend static_assert/_Static_assert.
> > And then some day BUG_ON will be flipped as well.
>
> _Static_assert() is broken by design and only usable for trival tests.
It is not broken by design. I was going to recommend it
for "static_assert(sizeof(struct S) == ...)" type of things. For ABI types and
similar stuff.
BTW BUILD_BUG_ON is broken by design too, there are places with fake functions
for a block so that they can put statement in.
> clang also output the entire expansion of the conditional (even when
> a message is specified) which can lead to very very very very long lines.
Oh, that's very unfortunate.
> It isn't at all suitable for many of the checks in the kernel.
STATIC_ASSERT could be arranged.
> Look at the signedness test in min() as an example.
The very fact you all made giant mess trying to imitate min<T, U>()
should not block progress of using standard (and better!) stuff.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-27 14:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-09 20:34 [PATCH 1/9] CodingStyle: make Documentation/CodingStyle into symlink Alexey Dobriyan
2025-05-09 20:34 ` [PATCH 2/9] CodingStyle: delete explicit numbering Alexey Dobriyan
2025-05-12 9:06 ` Jani Nikula
2025-05-09 20:34 ` [PATCH 3/9] CodingStyle: advise on using "sysctl" in sysctl variables Alexey Dobriyan
2025-05-09 20:34 ` [PATCH 4/9] CodingStyle: mention "typedef struct S {} S;" if typedef is used Alexey Dobriyan
2025-05-10 6:18 ` Greg KH
2025-05-13 18:34 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2025-05-10 10:47 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-05-10 10:47 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2025-05-13 18:37 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2025-05-09 20:34 ` [PATCH 5/9] CodingStyle: institute better inline assembly formatting Alexey Dobriyan
2025-05-13 19:41 ` David Laight
2025-05-09 20:34 ` [PATCH 6/9] CodingStyle: recommend static_assert/_Static_assert Alexey Dobriyan
2025-05-10 6:21 ` Greg KH
2025-05-13 18:41 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2025-05-13 19:40 ` David Laight
2025-12-27 14:51 ` Alexey Dobriyan [this message]
2025-12-27 19:45 ` David Laight
2025-05-09 20:34 ` [PATCH 7/9] CodingStyle: new variable declaration placement rule Alexey Dobriyan
2025-05-09 20:34 ` [PATCH 8/9] CodingStyle: tell people how to split long "for" loops Alexey Dobriyan
2025-05-10 18:56 ` David Laight
2025-05-12 16:20 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2025-05-12 16:59 ` Greg KH
2025-05-12 19:09 ` David Laight
2025-05-09 20:34 ` [PATCH 9/9] CodingStyle: flip the rule about curlies Alexey Dobriyan
2025-05-09 21:44 ` Randy Dunlap
2025-05-10 6:18 ` Greg KH
2025-05-12 16:43 ` Jeff Johnson
2025-05-12 16:56 ` Greg KH
2025-05-13 19:06 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2025-05-15 16:33 ` Jeff Johnson
2025-05-09 20:40 ` [PATCH 1/9] CodingStyle: make Documentation/CodingStyle into symlink Ozgur Kara
2025-05-10 10:05 ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-05-12 16:08 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2025-05-12 16:57 ` Greg KH
2025-05-13 18:32 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2025-05-14 18:55 ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-05-13 4:12 ` Al Viro
2025-05-13 18:33 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2025-05-13 19:04 ` Al Viro
2025-05-13 19:26 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2025-05-13 19:50 ` Al Viro
2025-05-19 16:21 ` Pavel Machek
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