From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EDAF819EED3; Wed, 25 Feb 2026 21:45:54 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1772055955; cv=none; b=QSHN+tJPF6FuYnz1K0R5PzvqzYEQwqGKM0fe7x5sru1PjJLT8bsl9OTe8nWr7fup/AIrII/i86fdZNqdS7TlcLIkatlCMP0f/XfB6aPWVprRku3zztNMykIgnCrBl6hOmXX+hMo1c2TKaENYN/kuJKDrtdm+QlbmMS8mE4Xmb/Q= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1772055955; c=relaxed/simple; bh=CruDCZjsjXrYCZyE3ojF++r9JYVqoPaMKqkQId1lEhY=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=gree1Elp/s3C2oqB8KXnbG9pF5Jsty6hEyfNax34T9YFCdTVqq3/5ijDj0/RC0BmINz1q8Gp0IUqANO9ar+X08fDYP8k//2LihIok5gT4wuxjhhMOxumly5cm/kKTvHlG/kHi6HopORELtDuBCtyGcTvjmN7g5zW2qM4dzi1aL4= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=KuFbNoxW; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="KuFbNoxW" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7C403C116D0; Wed, 25 Feb 2026 21:45:50 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1772055954; bh=CruDCZjsjXrYCZyE3ojF++r9JYVqoPaMKqkQId1lEhY=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=KuFbNoxWlmIzblRI46l2M3shUNrdezCvyED+VFq17e9fiMSFe7vOwA9pO3/ecXm6W qHRxhZGfA2eNVRlifVs7X2HiopMu9salvAWaQHALwjM+pPyHf97/PwKuBHxIw5dbTL ZVIurHsuZIoIKVTRnK1msxW8xBIY/l6LfNkcCmnRv+P5eQV/ZwgR/9LG7PtsKvso8N C+bbVlaRlKcW/lSAx/rCpmFy0eunJRDni9U/5HeDsN2DUcw0CaLrJeNtf7jzq2iAGP 2qnzJfgn4gPq4fyYMbkcXLoqI389pT9Jf9RRcV7JRIMwxCwKVOhaIm+kNnUd4yJdqx WV/tb2wPJradA== Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2026 22:45:48 +0100 From: Alejandro Colomar To: Greg Kroah-Hartman Cc: Steven Rostedt , Mark Brown , Sasha Levin , Geert Uytterhoeven , Jacob Keller , Yeking@red54.com, kuba@kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet , Theodore Ts'o , Andy Whitcroft , Joe Perches , Dwaipayan Ray , Lukas Bulwahn , Andrew Morton , workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tech-board-discuss@lists.linux.dev, Andrew Lunn Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add short author date to Fixes tag Message-ID: References: <2026022531-tightness-rare-6a14@gregkh> <2026022539-commotion-huskiness-8736@gregkh> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: workflows@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nth7q4avk33oteqe" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2026022539-commotion-huskiness-8736@gregkh> --nth7q4avk33oteqe Content-Type: text/plain; protected-headers=v1; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Alejandro Colomar To: Greg Kroah-Hartman Cc: Steven Rostedt , Mark Brown , Sasha Levin , Geert Uytterhoeven , Jacob Keller , Yeking@red54.com, kuba@kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet , Theodore Ts'o , Andy Whitcroft , Joe Perches , Dwaipayan Ray , Lukas Bulwahn , Andrew Morton , workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tech-board-discuss@lists.linux.dev, Andrew Lunn Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add short author date to Fixes tag Message-ID: References: <2026022531-tightness-rare-6a14@gregkh> <2026022539-commotion-huskiness-8736@gregkh> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2026022539-commotion-huskiness-8736@gregkh> Hi Greg, On 2026-02-25T13:23:24-0800, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > > > Commit date also doesn't matter. If I commit a fix to one of my > > > branches today, but Linus pulls it in in 2 years from now, what would > > > that date really show to anyone? > >=20 > > I think this is a bit confused. > >=20 > > If you commit a fix for a commit that is in Linus's tree, your Fixes tag > > will refer to the mainline commit, and the Fixes tag will remain valid > > if the fix is pulled by Linus in the future, because it will continue to > > refer to the same commit with the same hash and date. >=20 > But we do not need the date! It provides no additional information that > we can't just look up if we really need it. >=20 > The HASH ("text") format does 2 things, it provides an id we can use to > look up more, and the text is there to give humans a hint if they don't > want or need to look it up. The date gives more information to humans to decide if the commit is important to look up. Sometimes, a subject can be ambiguous to the human, even if it's not ambiguous to a machine. The date can help give some context to a human. For example, one could relate a commit to a series that was merged around that date. The date uses few characters, so it's not too expensive in terms of space. You may even take some space back by dropping a few characters =66rom the hash. Also, by having a fixed-width, it doesn't distract much, as all subjects will still be aligned, so the eyes can jump it easily if not interesting (just like the hash). I appreciate seeing the date in my Fixes tags elsewhere, as it avoids looking up some commits, which I would look up if I hadn't seen the date. Secondarily, it helps with the ID, in case it becomes ambiguous. But I started using it for the human part of it. > There is no need to include anything else, > let's keep it simple please. Okay; I won't insist. Have a lovely night! 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