From: Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>
To: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
Jacob Keller <jacob.e.keller@intel.com>,
Yeking@red54.com, kuba@kernel.org,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
Andy Whitcroft <apw@canonical.com>, Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
Dwaipayan Ray <dwaipayanray1@gmail.com>,
Lukas Bulwahn <lukas.bulwahn@gmail.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tech-board-discuss@lists.linux.dev,
Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add short author date to Fixes tag
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2026 15:08:36 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aZ9WxFBEBub9uOS1@laps> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aZ4_sBIy8rOUL59Q@devuan>
On Wed, Feb 25, 2026 at 01:56:02AM +0100, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
>Steven wrote (Fri, 10 Jan 2025 08:03:31 -0500):
>> How can it lead to misjudgment? If you have two or more hashes matching, do
>> you really think they'll have the same subjects?
>
>The possibility isn't zero. Statistically, it's quite low. However,
>it's non-zero.
>
>$ git log --format=tformat:'%s' | sort | uniq -c | sort | tail
> 248 Merge branch 'perf-urgent-for-linus' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tip/tip
> 263 Merge git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/davem/net-2.6
> 275 Merge branch 'x86-urgent-for-linus' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tip/tip
> 293 Merge tag 'arm64-fixes' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/arm64/linux
> 314 Merge branch 'akpm' (patches from Andrew)
> 315 Merge git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/netdev/net
> 318 Merge tag 'scsi-fixes' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/jejb/scsi
> 324 Merge branch 'for-linus' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/dtor/input
> 369 Merge tag 'for-linus' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/virt/kvm/kvm
> 670 Merge git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/davem/net
>$ git log --format=tformat:'%s' | grep -v ^Merge | sort | uniq -c | sort | tail
>grep: (standard input): binary file matches
> 22 drm/amd/display: Clean up some inconsistent indenting
> 25 Auto-update from upstream
> 26 [ARM] Update mach-types
> 26 pmdomain: Merge branch fixes into next
> 30 s390: update defconfigs
> 32 tools arch x86: Sync the msr-index.h copy with the kernel sources
> 38 [SPARC64]: Update defconfig.
> 52 mmc: Merge branch fixes into next
> 59 drm/i915: Convert wait_for(I915_READ(reg)) to intel_wait_for_register()
> 62 batman-adv: Start new development cycle
>
>Subjects repeat every now and then, and the entropy in some subjects is
>actually quite low.
>
>If you include the commit date in a Fixes tag, then you preclude the
>entire possibility of a commit reference clash, because you won't have
>two patches committed in the same date with the same subject and same
>hash (unless you *really* try)
The probability of a collision where two commits share both the same
abbreviated SHA1 and the same subject line is so astronomically low that it's
not a realistic concern.
For context, Linus himself pushed back on merely extending the 12-character
SHA1 abbreviation to 13. A change that wouldn't even break existing scripts.
Yet the proposal here is to introduce an entirely new date parameter that's
incompatible with the current format, all to address a scenario that is
unlikely in practice.
--
Thanks,
Sasha
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-25 20:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-25 0:56 Alejandro Colomar
2026-02-25 0:57 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-02-25 18:00 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-02-25 18:20 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-02-25 19:47 ` James Bottomley
2026-02-25 21:23 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-02-25 21:45 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-02-25 22:35 ` Theodore Tso
2026-02-25 23:27 ` Sasha Levin
2026-02-25 23:46 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-02-26 0:20 ` Alejandro Colomar
2026-02-25 20:08 ` Sasha Levin [this message]
2026-02-26 0:08 ` Steven Rostedt
[not found] <tencent_6CF6E720909156A227D23AE8CFE4F9BA5D05@qq.com>
2025-01-10 12:20 ` Yeking
2025-01-10 12:32 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-01-10 13:03 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-01-11 0:21 ` Jacob Keller
2025-01-11 5:48 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-01-11 17:09 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-01-12 10:54 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-01-13 14:51 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-01-13 15:08 ` Mark Brown
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