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Hallyn" , Lorenzo Stoakes , "Liam R. Howlett" , Jens Axboe , Dave Hansen , Dave Hansen , Dave Hansen , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Shuah Khan , Kees Cook , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Miguel Ojeda , Luis Chamberlain , SeongJae Park , Dan Williams , Steven Rostedt , NeilBrown , Theodore Ts'o , Sasha Levin , Jonathan Corbet , Vlastimil Babka , workflows@vger.kernel.org, ksummit@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: [PATCH] [v3] Documentation: Provide guidelines for tool-generated content Message-ID: References: <6e9cab54-7b66-45e9-af96-e52b3eba1034@intel.com> <711d9e37-6fe7-4783-8ac4-5269279bb9fe@kernel.dk> <3xf3f4b3vegssexoid746y7isuswwsgmac5hy2hm4ipisdcxaf@nbi67byycwj5> <0b9a8f99-5cc4-40e8-a0e6-4887d1e1a796@lucifer.local> <39da84e891a8ccd4a17115ce6a399c2f6498e78f.camel@HansenPartnership.com> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: workflows@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <39da84e891a8ccd4a17115ce6a399c2f6498e78f.camel@HansenPartnership.com> On Sat, Jan 10, 2026 at 11:02:19AM -0500, James Bottomley wrote: > On Sat, 2026-01-10 at 15:52 +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 10, 2026 at 09:25:36AM -0600, Serge E. Hallyn wrote: > > > I just don't think the word "slop" should be used, because while it > > > may be very clear to you, and may be clearly defined in some > > > communities, me, I'm just guessing what you mean by it. > > > > https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/word-of-the-year > > Just because it's the word of the year this year doesn't mean people > will remember what it means even after a few years. "Rawdog" was the > OED word of the year in 2024 ... that's losing its resonance and who of > the under 30 crowd knows what the 2000 word of the year "chad" means? > The point of the formulation I proposed (without mentioning slop) was > to be generic and retain its meaning over time. Slop means you produced the patches in such quantity that you don't have time to review the output before sending it. This isn't a totally new thing, people have used clang-format to reformat a whole driver and it's clear they didn't look at the output. Even for bug reports, the truth is that no one reads mass bug reports. I occasionally send mass bug reports if I create a new warning. No one ever reads them. regards, dan carpenter