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From: Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>
To: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <linux@treblig.org>,
	Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org>,
	corbet@lwn.net, workflows@vger.kernel.org, josh@joshtriplett.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] docs: submitting-patches: (AI?) Tool disclosure tag
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2025 21:06:23 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aILYj62tF_1mDjDO@lappy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202507241651.5E9C803C70@keescook>

On Thu, Jul 24, 2025 at 04:54:11PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
>On Thu, Jul 24, 2025 at 07:45:56PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
>> My thought is to treat AI as another developer. If a developer helps you
>> like the AI is helping you, would you give that developer credit for that
>> work? If so, then you should also give credit to the tooling that's helping
>> you.
>>
>> I suggested adding a new tag to note any tool that has done non-trivial
>> work to produce the patch where you give it credit if it has helped you as
>> much as another developer that you would give credit to.
>
>We've got tags to choose from already in that case:
>
>Suggested-by: LLM
>
>or
>
>Co-developed-by: LLM <not@human.with.legal.standing>
>Signed-off-by: LLM <not@human.with.legal.standing>
>
>The latter seems ... not good, as it implies DCO SoB from a thing that
>can't and hasn't acknowledged the DCO.

In my mind, "any tool" would also be something like gcc giving you a
"non-trivial" error (think something like a buffer overflow warning that
could have been a security issue).

In that case, should we encode the entire toolchain used for developing
a patch?

Maybe...

Some sort of semi-standardized shorthand notation of the tooling used to
develop a patch could be interesting not just for plain disclosure, but
also to be able to trace back issues with patches ("oh! the author
didn't see a warning because they use gcc 13 while the warning was added
in gcc 14!").

Signed-off-by: John Doe <jd@example.com> # gcc:14.1;ccache:1.2;sparse:4.7;claude-code:0.5

This way some of it could be automated via git hooks and we can recommend
a relevant string to add with checkpatch.

-- 
Thanks,
Sasha

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-07-25  1:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-24 17:54 linux
2025-07-24 19:07 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-07-24 20:45   ` Kees Cook
2025-07-24 21:06     ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-07-24 21:12     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2025-07-24 21:20       ` Kees Cook
2025-07-24 23:45         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-24 23:54           ` Kees Cook
2025-07-25  0:55             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2025-07-25  1:06             ` Sasha Levin [this message]
2025-07-25  1:20               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2025-07-25  1:52                 ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-25  2:02                   ` Steven Rostedt
2025-07-25  2:39                     ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-25 11:29                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2025-07-25 11:37                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-07-25 11:49                       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2025-07-25 17:45                         ` Al Viro
2025-07-25 22:40                     ` Sasha Levin
2025-07-25 23:29                       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert

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