From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB8EAC433C1 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 21:58:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C0C5619AA for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 21:58:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S230160AbhCVV5g (ORCPT ); Mon, 22 Mar 2021 17:57:36 -0400 Received: from outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu ([18.9.28.11]:56150 "EHLO outgoing.mit.edu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229730AbhCVV5J (ORCPT ); Mon, 22 Mar 2021 17:57:09 -0400 Received: from cwcc.thunk.org (pool-72-74-133-215.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [72.74.133.215]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id 12MLuuMT020632 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 22 Mar 2021 17:56:57 -0400 Received: by cwcc.thunk.org (Postfix, from userid 15806) id 754A315C39CC; Mon, 22 Mar 2021 17:56:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 17:56:56 -0400 From: "Theodore Ts'o" To: Thorsten Leemhuis Cc: Linus Torvalds , Konstantin Ryabitsev , Greg KH , workflows@vger.kernel.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List , ksummit Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] RFC: create mailing list "linux-issues" focussed on issues/bugs and regressions Message-ID: References: <613fe50d-fc9c-6282-f1f3-34653acb2ee9@leemhuis.info> <62b60247-7838-a624-706e-b1a54785b2a5@leemhuis.info> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <62b60247-7838-a624-706e-b1a54785b2a5@leemhuis.info> Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: workflows@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 08:25:15PM +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > I agree to the last point and yeah, maybe regressions are the more > important problem we should work on – at least from the perspective of > kernel development. But from the users perspective (and > reporting-issues.rst is written for that perspective) it feel a bit > unsatisfying to not have a solution to query for existing report, > regressions or not. Hmmmm... First of all, thanks for working on reporting-issues.rst. If we can actually get users to *read* it, I think it's going to save kernel developers a huge amount of time and frustration. I wonder if it might be useful to have a form which users could be encouraged to fill out so that (a) the information is available in a structured format so it's easier for developers to find the relevant information, (b) so it is easier for programs to parse, for easier reporting or indexing, and (c) as a nudge so that users remember to report critical bits of information such as the hardware configuration, the exact kernel version, which distribution userspace was in use, etc. There could also be something in the text form which would make it easier for lore.kernel.org searches to identify bug reports. (e.g., "LINUX KERNEL BUG REPORTER TEMPLATE") - Ted