From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4355EC432C2 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 10:18:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20EBD222C3 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 10:18:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726438AbfIZKSa (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Sep 2019 06:18:30 -0400 Received: from mail-ot1-f66.google.com ([209.85.210.66]:39230 "EHLO mail-ot1-f66.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726865AbfIZKSa (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Sep 2019 06:18:30 -0400 Received: by mail-ot1-f66.google.com with SMTP id s22so1500803otr.6 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 03:18:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Ja2VZ2PuU7WTLHAY7gNjX/qyKPpABVflpP3tcc1+5VE=; b=WEru9FKJuYV/RmxfgHKzN5f/Q0ywCdJtbxZzdJx/OmK3Z0iR3Zpd69ubusGEhZZ1D+ ym54lgISIDIPEZ455K0yAjc5sNm5IMEvhDJbyYPHT9856gfvEgDDiknZHun/ZBYDwwGY oGyICGpn6mLkKZ0Sj09L9jFHLb8XbPjZXaQyryQsrEjXmhVIljG/vkWprEwiERtRE5p5 LkZdUzIfxam+C0Yc2CYaUw371H+ErF0LcvjrXI6Of5FlnTcQ+F48dYZeecABKZlOYosq z7I5NgTTkh6ZqKSaPLFFq3gYTPgeKme59yeXLmoaiDEbgjN6aAR6vDU8/w05JPAjAszA rkuw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXf9PwbVgKzZJdzRSNRPpiihNOiS9kS6EIw9lpd2JoLS9c9Rsqx fRbxA6tRSZabHePj7bSTcSu9QTinwWu1Lo2j8jE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxhDTLqwH/ax/1TUggIVCsoQ6+BPqPZwo9FJKZPfjeep5ExEOAImdJNTzFAMCSAqzIt2AANBxLVCRWIscGfHzE= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:404d:: with SMTP id o13mr2030824oti.39.1569493109654; Thu, 26 Sep 2019 03:18:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1811089.yxvLMk49Ug@kreacher> <20190923162001.GD6005@mit.edu> In-Reply-To: <20190923162001.GD6005@mit.edu> From: Geert Uytterhoeven Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 12:18:18 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Kernel development collaboration platform wish list To: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" , workflows@vger.kernel.org, Shuah Khan , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Bjorn Helgaas , Jiri Kosina , Konstantin Ryabitsev Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sender: workflows-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: workflows@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 6:19 PM Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote: > One of the things I'd like to add as a strong desire is the ability to > review patches via web if that's what users would like to do. There > are some real benefits for web-based review. It means that if you > need to see greater context, it's relatively easy to do this. It also > is convenient to be able to see the conversation for a particular hunk > of code right alongside the code. > > It's clear that whatever we do, it needs to be compatible with e-mail. > That's very clear. But it would be useful if we can support both the > e-mail and web-based review. There have some prototypes that have > been floated which shows that it is at least possible; perhaps > imperfectly, but something which provides a bidrectional gateway > between those who perfer to use e-mail and those that prefer to use a > web-based UI would be able to do it. > > There will be many potential kernel contributors who will be used to > web-based UI's such as those that are available on github. So while > remaining e-mail compatible, having some way of allow as many > operations to be done via web interfaces might help us get some newer > developers who are more comfortable to living on the web than some of > us more senior developers who remember when "gopher" was a text-based > search engine, and not a mascot for the Go programming langauge. :-) And if it's done right, it may solve (or make it harder to show) other bad review behavior, like: - Top posting review comments, - Quoting a 2000-line patch when commenting on a single line deep down. Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds