From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40BCAC433F5 for ; Sun, 2 Oct 2022 16:08:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229449AbiJBQIc (ORCPT ); Sun, 2 Oct 2022 12:08:32 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:38882 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229714AbiJBQIa (ORCPT ); Sun, 2 Oct 2022 12:08:30 -0400 Received: from mail-qv1-f46.google.com (mail-qv1-f46.google.com [209.85.219.46]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40E4C27DEA; Sun, 2 Oct 2022 09:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qv1-f46.google.com with SMTP id f14so2096441qvo.3; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 09:08:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=HriaR9SbJdHeOwl1T1L8SB1ypd9OI4wcQH5thMKc5u8=; b=yaqrzaR4/cFR1vLqWL0UCOEJgklObj4mpuwH+6VE4PDbZWGn4qfxeKp4mEJkBJWKEn HvvlDKIUdvljmtS2KeJY8RvHGsG6taF/yBXDj9RmuS11C0iWPBF4jh6j2Uf2bLnYCgB/ KJiSNm1hh6jF1cAVlZRt/5qs0qYMER8/Q+0QHmqCgtNnZrCfcJ++7xnZ7H9BVJfqLpKv xo91zftReWuuwD0wlaOPRepjro1UtpMvtxgv9uxL1fF5cd3/VtpLl055yKzaCEzgr7mY ut9Dfom0H0LPBsC60+WeELrV0XnWZP7WFmFbcS5rw6smYyTytZU1ukJY8pNbKVgMW5cy tgTQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf1J5bKCuPaSDy1E307dXDDPE27mpVdB46xo23Du1P4owlYkGbSM tq1CrzuRTiXj7w/mXkD3OOP5aw4zKJy2Qg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM7f8zSo9JUv06HwsNvLsGwnCVlMb7nFs7MrVzi7n/RGnniSkoAbDPK0C5cn62cQubzgtdYijg== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6214:29e7:b0:4af:487d:c049 with SMTP id jv7-20020a05621429e700b004af487dc049mr14202773qvb.96.1664726906060; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 09:08:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yw1-f173.google.com (mail-yw1-f173.google.com. [209.85.128.173]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id bl14-20020a05622a244e00b0034456277e3asm6947936qtb.89.2022.10.02.09.08.24 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 02 Oct 2022 09:08:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yw1-f173.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-324ec5a9e97so86659187b3.7; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 09:08:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a81:98d:0:b0:357:2422:13b4 with SMTP id 135-20020a81098d000000b00357242213b4mr8099058ywj.316.1664726904607; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 09:08:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <05d149a0-e3de-8b09-ecc0-3ea73e080be3@leemhuis.info> <9a2fdff8-d0d3-ebba-d344-3c1016237fe5@gmx.com> <83f6dd2b-784a-e6d3-ebaf-6ad9cfe4eefe@gmx.com> <79bb605a-dab8-972d-aa4a-a5e5ee49387c@gmx.com> In-Reply-To: <79bb605a-dab8-972d-aa4a-a5e5ee49387c@gmx.com> From: Geert Uytterhoeven Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2022 18:08:10 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Planned changes for bugzilla.kernel.org to reduce the "Bugzilla blues" To: "Artem S. Tashkinov" Cc: "Theodore Ts'o" , Thorsten Leemhuis , Greg KH , Konstantin Ryabitsev , workflows@vger.kernel.org, LKML , Linus Torvalds , "regressions@lists.linux.dev" , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, Mario Limonciello Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: workflows@vger.kernel.org Hi Artem, On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 2:49 PM Artem S. Tashkinov wrote: > The current ill-maintained semi-functional bugzilla has proven to be a > ton more useful than random mailing lists no sane person can keep track > of. Bug "reports", i.e. random emails are neglected and forgotten. LKML > is the worst of them probably. Such a statement really needs to be backed by numbers... > Let's operate with some examples: > > Bugzilla gets around two dozen bug reports weekly which encompass at > most thirty emails, which equals to four emails daily on average. This immediately debunks your statement above. $ git log v5.19..linus/master | grep Fixes: | wc -l 2928 So that's 46 bugs fixed per _day_. Most of them not reported through bugzilla... > LKML alone sees up to a hundred emails _daily_. > > Getting worked up about it? I'm dumbfounded to be honest. Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds