From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 220A6C433FE for ; Sun, 2 Oct 2022 16:11:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229549AbiJBQLH (ORCPT ); Sun, 2 Oct 2022 12:11:07 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:46554 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229540AbiJBQLG (ORCPT ); Sun, 2 Oct 2022 12:11:06 -0400 Received: from mail-qk1-f181.google.com (mail-qk1-f181.google.com [209.85.222.181]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB2A82983F; Sun, 2 Oct 2022 09:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qk1-f181.google.com with SMTP id y2so5465340qkl.11; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 09:11:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date; bh=WTvr6KrD1Ov/UIG2XSm8BCfmFEi/ZMG6lyU59pelPCU=; b=8MY1LrlE7INrEe4x8peg21qMor77VPDb3WkkRcA0jlRNTXGNb2NLy6BZXrymexpD3t kX6Aia0q7tl3fgGK9Nz2oWgMs05OBGpk8YhLjNeMn/Imqzs/r3weAmfaBAvHmxLe/H/t cyFj1j3P2D4NvlUl3ICE+WHBGWeYyprYleJPnE3nrh+B7KaN1hIbsQV+xuRa3rW68RS/ 18ep6iowYQigTqbufWbvfV7/PlYksAIKYIRdENoo5jcacfp/vng/wZcAeXc7ADyHVOx/ P4MUx8SG1PA9sETUpT/H3RaADlQyUMTha7TOjmOJKW+UgdsNivO2sdEN6vOYAqSlvU6t u/8g== X-Gm-Message-State: ACrzQf2OUYhyDNeGtSxW7rh5kuMbg4WbzNBgZmHtEBkZziOMeXP4HNX0 6MXJbbMPMvBGpWTBbJfjdvuIx88b4ESvkw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMsMyM4vOs2daahAOeeoXl9Si+DbFp3pt8cv1wcNrsR7vE0rRw/F2L+TkQR4HGMckcHA4aoGudzEGQ== X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:2605:b0:6ce:1509:e9f7 with SMTP id z5-20020a05620a260500b006ce1509e9f7mr11718027qko.379.1664727064672; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 09:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yb1-f174.google.com (mail-yb1-f174.google.com. [209.85.219.174]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x188-20020a3795c5000000b006bad7a2964fsm8395655qkd.78.2022.10.02.09.11.03 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 02 Oct 2022 09:11:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yb1-f174.google.com with SMTP id j7so10590732ybb.8; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 09:11:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a05:6902:2c1:b0:6b2:8bb0:79a0 with SMTP id w1-20020a05690202c100b006b28bb079a0mr16557262ybh.202.1664727063295; Sun, 02 Oct 2022 09:11:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <05d149a0-e3de-8b09-ecc0-3ea73e080be3@leemhuis.info> <9a2fdff8-d0d3-ebba-d344-3c1016237fe5@gmx.com> <83f6dd2b-784a-e6d3-ebaf-6ad9cfe4eefe@gmx.com> <79bb605a-dab8-972d-aa4a-a5e5ee49387c@gmx.com> In-Reply-To: From: Geert Uytterhoeven Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2022 18:10:48 +0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: Planned changes for bugzilla.kernel.org to reduce the "Bugzilla blues" To: "Artem S. Tashkinov" Cc: "Theodore Ts'o" , Thorsten Leemhuis , Greg KH , Konstantin Ryabitsev , workflows@vger.kernel.org, LKML , Linus Torvalds , "regressions@lists.linux.dev" , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, Mario Limonciello Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: workflows@vger.kernel.org On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 6:08 PM Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 2:49 PM Artem S. Tashkinov wrote: > > The current ill-maintained semi-functional bugzilla has proven to be a > > ton more useful than random mailing lists no sane person can keep track > > of. Bug "reports", i.e. random emails are neglected and forgotten. LKML > > is the worst of them probably. > > Such a statement really needs to be backed by numbers... > > > Let's operate with some examples: > > > > Bugzilla gets around two dozen bug reports weekly which encompass at > > most thirty emails, which equals to four emails daily on average. > > This immediately debunks your statement above. > > $ git log v5.19..linus/master | grep Fixes: | wc -l > 2928 Sorry, this was using my grep = `grep --color=tty -i' alias. But that caused less than 100 false-positives, thus has no impact on the point I'm trying to make. Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@linux-m68k.org In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds