From: Yabin Cui <yabinc@google.com>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: Rong Xu <xur@google.com>, Han Shen <shenhan@google.com>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>,
Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] arm64: Allow CONFIG_AUTOFDO_CLANG to be selected
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2024 15:51:34 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALJ9ZPNfUFF8OrpvziTnTvGU7OxEgyy9ZTc3aF-NhZ5hMbp7RQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241209185623.GA13084@willie-the-truck>
On Mon, Dec 9, 2024 at 10:56 AM Will Deacon <will@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> (Aside: please try to avoid top-posting on the public lists as it messes up
> the flow of conversation; I'll try to piece this back together.)
>
> On Mon, Dec 09, 2024 at 09:30:50AM -0800, Rong Xu wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 9, 2024 at 8:20 AM Will Deacon <will@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 02:25:40PM -0800, Yabin Cui wrote:
> > > > diff --git a/arch/arm64/Kconfig b/arch/arm64/Kconfig
> > > > index fd9df6dcc593..c3814df5e391 100644
> > > > --- a/arch/arm64/Kconfig
> > > > +++ b/arch/arm64/Kconfig
> > > > @@ -103,6 +103,7 @@ config ARM64
> > > > select ARCH_SUPPORTS_PER_VMA_LOCK
> > > > select ARCH_SUPPORTS_HUGE_PFNMAP if TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE
> > > > select ARCH_SUPPORTS_RT
> > > > + select ARCH_SUPPORTS_AUTOFDO_CLANG
> > > > select ARCH_WANT_BATCHED_UNMAP_TLB_FLUSH
> > > > select ARCH_WANT_COMPAT_IPC_PARSE_VERSION if COMPAT
> > > > select ARCH_WANT_DEFAULT_BPF_JIT
> > >
> > > After this change, both arm64 and x86 select this option unconditionally
> > > and with no apparent support code being added. So what is actually
> > > required in order to select ARCH_SUPPORTS_AUTOFDO_CLANG and why isn't
> > > it just available for all architectures instead?
I think it's similar to ARCH_SUPPORTS_LTO_CLANG, which also doesn't need any
support code but requires testing to ensure it works on a specific architecture.
>
> > Enabling an AutoFDO build requires users to explicitly set CONFIG_AUTOFDO_CLANG.
> > The support code is in Commit 315ad8780a129e82 (kbuild: Add AutoFDO
> > support for Clang build).
>
> Yes, that is precisely my point. The user has to enable
> CONFIG_AUTOFDO_CLANG anyway, so what is the point in having
> ARCH_SUPPORTS_AUTOFDO_CLANG. Why would an architecture _not_ want to
> select that?
>
> > We are not enabling this for all architectures because AutoFDO's optimized build
> > relies on Last Branch Records (LBR) which aren't available on all architectures.
>
> So? ETM isn't available on all arm64 machines and I doubt whether LBR is
> available on _all_ x86 machines either. So there's a runtime failure
> mode that needs to be handled anyway and I don't think the arch-specific
> Kconfig option is really doing anything useful.
My understanding of the benefits of ARCH_SUPPORTS_AUTOFDO_CLANG is:
1. Generally, we don't prefer to collect an AutoFDO profile on one
architecture and use it to build the kernel for another architecture.
This is because the profile misses data for architecture-dependent
code. ARCH_SUPPORTS_AUTOFDO_CLANG can partially prevent this from
happening.
2. Building a kernel with an AutoFDO profile involves using new
optimization flags for clang. Having ARCH_SUPPORTS_AUTOFDO_CLANG=y
for one architecture means someone has tested building a kernel with
an AutoFDO profile on this architecture.
>
> Will
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-12-09 23:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-18 22:25 Yabin Cui
2024-11-18 23:49 ` Rong Xu
2024-11-20 0:04 ` Yabin Cui
2024-11-20 15:54 ` George Burgess
2024-11-20 17:59 ` Kees Cook
2024-12-09 16:20 ` Will Deacon
2024-12-09 17:30 ` Rong Xu
2024-12-09 18:56 ` Will Deacon
2024-12-09 23:51 ` Yabin Cui [this message]
2024-12-10 11:31 ` Will Deacon
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