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From: David Gow <davidgow@google.com>
To: Nikolai Kondrashov <Nikolai.Kondrashov@redhat.com>
Cc: workflows@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	 Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	Andy Whitcroft <apw@canonical.com>,
	"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	 Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	 Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Darrick J . Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	 kunit-dev@googlegroups.com, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	 Veronika Kabatova <vkabatov@redhat.com>,
	CKI <cki-project@redhat.com>,
	kernelci@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 06/10] MAINTAINERS: Support referencing test docs in V:
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2023 16:03:44 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABVgOSnW1Yzz-1Zdr-k-qWL25yUDZo+jbhPwNkK7dG-8-WonFg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231205184503.79769-7-Nikolai.Kondrashov@redhat.com>

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On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 at 02:45, Nikolai Kondrashov
<Nikolai.Kondrashov@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> Support referencing test suite documentation in the V: entries of
> MAINTAINERS file. Use the '*<name>' syntax (like C pointer dereference),
> where '<name>' is a second-level heading in the new
> Documentation/process/tests.rst file, with the suite's description.
> This syntax allows distinguishing the references from test commands.
>
> Add a boiler-plate Documentation/process/tests.rst file, describing a
> way to add structured info to the test suites in the form of field
> lists. Apart from a "summary" and "command" fields, they can also
> contain a "superset" field specifying the superset of the test suite,
> helping reuse documentation and express both wider and narrower test
> sets.
>
> Make scripts/checkpatch.pl load the tests from the file, along with the
> structured data, validate the references in MAINTAINERS, dereference
> them, and output the test suite information in the CHECK messages
> whenever the corresponding subsystems are changed. But only if there was
> no corresponding Tested-with: tag in the commit message, certifying it
> was executed successfully already.
>
> This is supposed to help propose executing test suites which cannot be
> executed immediately, and need extra setup, as well as provide a place
> for extra documentation and information on directly-available suites.
>
> Signed-off-by: Nikolai Kondrashov <Nikolai.Kondrashov@redhat.com>
> ---

I like the idea here, but wonder whether it makes sense to put all of
these tests into a single 'tests.rst' file. There's already lots of
existing documentation scattered around the tree, and while keeping
all of the testing information in one place does have advantages, I
think there's a lot to be said for keeping subsystem-specific test
docs alongside the rest of the documentation for the subsystem itself.
And it'd be less work, as the docs are already there.

So, could we just make this a path under Documentation/ (possibly with
an #anchor if we need to reference just one part of a file)?

e.g., something like these, all of which are existing docs:
V: *Documentation/dev-tools/kasan.rst#Tests
or
V: *Dcoumentation/RCU/torture.rst
or
V: *Documentation/gpu/automated_testing.rst
or
V: *Documentation/process/maintainer-kvm-x86.rst#Testing

(We could even get rid of the '*' and just use 'Documentation/' as a
prefix, or the executable bit on the file, or similar to distinguish
these from scripts.)

If we wanted to be very brave, we could extend this further to
arbitrary webpages, like:
V: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/fs/xfs/xfstests-dev.git/tree/README

Thoughts?

-- David

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-06  8:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-15 17:43 [RFC PATCH 0/3] MAINTAINERS: Introduce V: field for required tests Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-11-15 17:43 ` [PATCH 1/3] " Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-11-15 18:31   ` Joe Perches
2023-11-15 20:01     ` Mark Brown
2023-11-16 12:00     ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-11-15 20:14   ` Mark Brown
2023-11-16 12:09     ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-11-15 20:38   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2023-11-16 12:14     ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-11-16 13:26       ` Mark Brown
2023-11-16 13:52         ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-11-20 12:40       ` Gustavo Padovan
2023-11-20 13:31         ` Mark Brown
2023-11-22 17:41         ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-11-16 13:20   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2023-11-16 13:41     ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-11-16 13:43       ` Bagas Sanjaya
2023-11-16 13:59     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-11-16 14:21     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-11-20 13:30   ` Ricardo Cañuelo
2023-11-20 20:51     ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-11-20 22:27       ` Mark Brown
2023-11-21  6:04         ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-11-21 10:37           ` David Gow
2023-11-21 13:27           ` Mark Brown
2023-11-22 16:16             ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-11-21 18:24       ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-11-21 18:02     ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-11-21 10:36   ` David Gow
2023-11-21 20:48     ` Mark Brown
2023-11-22 17:19     ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-11-22  1:08   ` kernel test robot
2023-11-15 17:43 ` [PATCH 2/3] MAINTAINERS: Require kvm-xfstests smoke for ext4 Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-11-15 18:58   ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-11-16 16:33     ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-11-17  7:09     ` Chandan Babu R
2023-11-19 22:54       ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-11-22 14:44         ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-11-22 16:17           ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-11-22 17:44             ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-11-22 20:51             ` Dave Chinner
2023-11-15 17:43 ` [PATCH 3/3] MAINTAINERS: Require kunit core tests for framework changes Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-11-20 18:48   ` Daniel Latypov
2023-11-22 17:38     ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-12-05 18:02 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/10] MAINTAINERS: Introduce V: entry for tests Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-12-05 18:02   ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/10] get_maintainer: Survive querying missing files Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-12-05 18:55     ` Joe Perches
2023-12-06 16:16       ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2024-01-31 13:55       ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-12-05 18:02   ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/10] MAINTAINERS: Introduce V: entry for tests Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-12-05 18:58     ` Joe Perches
2023-12-06 16:21       ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-12-06  8:12     ` David Gow
2023-12-06 16:23       ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-12-06 16:38         ` Joe Perches
2023-12-06 16:57           ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-12-05 18:02   ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/10] MAINTAINERS: Propose kunit core tests for framework changes Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-12-05 18:03   ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/10] docs: submitting-patches: Introduce Tested-with: Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-12-05 18:59     ` Jonathan Corbet
2023-12-05 19:07       ` Joe Perches
2023-12-06 10:07         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-12-06 16:46         ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-12-06 16:31       ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-12-05 18:03   ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/10] checkpatch: Propose tests to execute Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-12-05 18:03   ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/10] MAINTAINERS: Support referencing test docs in V: Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-12-06  8:03     ` David Gow [this message]
2023-12-06 16:54       ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-12-05 18:03   ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/10] MAINTAINERS: Propose kvm-xfstests smoke for ext4 Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-12-05 18:03   ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/10] docs: tests: Document kunit in general Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-12-05 18:03   ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/10] MAINTAINERS: Propose kunit tests for regmap Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-12-05 18:03   ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/10] MAINTAINERS: Add proposal strength to V: entries Nikolai Kondrashov
2024-01-08 10:42   ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/10] MAINTAINERS: Introduce V: entry for tests Nikolai Kondrashov

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