From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail.manjaro.org (mail.manjaro.org [116.203.91.91]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 58F5E210FB; Mon, 2 Dec 2024 15:00:50 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=116.203.91.91 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1733151651; cv=none; b=lcK0CK8zy5/0J8ThmZjKqEEvuHIp79LAnDxhW8Bees3dFddxjuudDEhpWt5xPgEIRBhmVjO+772lXUt+y3g4sONkCPaxm93H7/CJaflrl8J+czmUb/GRfQ5bb0bAQGuE5eM4TZVGdgWzx68RUYdMuzqDH3/lMf9a6C9pscmf0zM= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1733151651; c=relaxed/simple; bh=mHVrlQwCK5GGIIPaEC5wD4VmNpf8hz3vNgwxVhbJUE8=; h=MIME-Version:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References: Message-ID:Content-Type; b=JnyPfr06ogZyHzOcpFgpRtN7AZYbIvg8av1tOiPEhKBVhQ0KdRex4mMICpimvmhabEC5XZcmNevnhQUFvjWfG4InUQXOJvaKdwL3feFIyY09OLowPibAvdo4J34v8qSHUiTmn6Uhnw8Z/YuPXunEa4aPOOLnhT1tZpgASDNn3Lg= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=manjaro.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=manjaro.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=manjaro.org header.i=@manjaro.org header.b=BdmelBZj; arc=none smtp.client-ip=116.203.91.91 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=manjaro.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=manjaro.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=manjaro.org header.i=@manjaro.org header.b="BdmelBZj" Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: workflows@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=manjaro.org; s=2021; t=1733151648; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=Ke9HAWyIyVMoy4+WbUMo76Pv7napvRkCfz+Fo70nZbI=; b=BdmelBZjJaF/FJzybOwiZVaUEMz5LH7q6ikTjzxddzayZYFLlwjdx9RkYSiTS2Cb7imZGr Xhm5jxRZO6wnSuQ01XZUiAddXhCvdcDhqpfEyNZjU8UZ77auSBoMdzELvuaFrziQrf3n1P zbX/rR1wcivLdzgzqkuMzZY1jxReQeE0wtnUDePLtmJI/vIWR1RFy3mgZJzhWSRXoAh3K6 LH/aWFf6ghmcWPvCe525daReXlhV80A3zxkgmWGHYCFBVBF+KP5yPrmDyr8CpDZEfx/o+M gAD2NIcNPJ1DqLWSMRWDGp0JJlxCwvKq67jkM/U360O11vdC89MXWsshcH8LAw== Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 16:00:47 +0100 From: Dragan Simic To: Dan Williams Cc: Jonathan Corbet , apw@canonical.com, joe@perches.com, dwaipayanray1@gmail.com, lukas.bulwahn@gmail.com, workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, wens@csie.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] Make Helped-by tag supported In-Reply-To: <28c0a0ecc2e2880e4cb98449767e2842@manjaro.org> References: <87h68k4esb.fsf@trenco.lwn.net> <672e628111eb0_10bc629436@dwillia2-xfh.jf.intel.com.notmuch> <28c0a0ecc2e2880e4cb98449767e2842@manjaro.org> Message-ID: <9ae99d14dcd8867333fceacfaaa4430a@manjaro.org> X-Sender: dsimic@manjaro.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Authentication-Results: ORIGINATING; auth=pass smtp.auth=dsimic@manjaro.org smtp.mailfrom=dsimic@manjaro.org On 2024-11-09 04:10, Dragan Simic wrote: > On 2024-11-08 20:12, Dan Williams wrote: >> Dragan Simic wrote: >>> I'm fully aware that we may be reluctant to supporting additional >>> tags, >>> because we may then end up with a whole bunch of strange tags that >>> might >>> be a bit hard to understand and use properly, but I think that adding >>> Helped-by to the supported tag list may actually be a good thing to >>> do. >>> As described above, Helped-by fits very well between the Suggested-by >>> tag and the Co-developed-by + Signed-off-by pair of tags, and I think >>> that providing the right level of attribution may be beneficial. >> >> Patch attribution is separate from giving thanks. I would much rather >> someone take the time to say "Thanks" in the changelog with some >> supporting text rather than boil down all the myriad ways to be >> thankful >> into a generic tag. "git log --grep=Thanks" often yields valuable >> details, beyond just attribution, on how people have helped each other >> develop this global project of ours. If the introduction of Helped-by >> would replace even one authentic "Thank you" note with a generic tag >> then it is a net loss for the community. > > I do agree that writing "Thanks John for helping with..." in a patch > description would be nice, but unfortunately I've seen multiple times > that people don't enjoy writing their patch descriptions at all, and > just want to "get them out the door" as quickly as possible. > > With that in mind, making Helped-by tags supported would allow such > people to at least quickly mention someone they're thankful to, which > actually wouldn't prevent anyone from saying the same more verbosely > in a patch description. Just checking, are there any further thoughts on this patch?