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From: Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@leemhuis.info>
To: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Cc: workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	regressions@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [PATCH v1 13/30] docs: reporting-issues: improve environment check
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2025 13:42:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <958f8daae33cfc44124ad9cc6579daa417ba0a77.1761481839.git.linux@leemhuis.info> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.1761481839.git.linux@leemhuis.info>

Fine-tune the instructions regarding the environment check.

Signed-off-by: Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@leemhuis.info>
---
 .../admin-guide/reporting-issues.rst          | 74 ++++++++++++-------
 1 file changed, 46 insertions(+), 28 deletions(-)

diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/reporting-issues.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/reporting-issues.rst
index 861237aaf94126..439ec52f270167 100644
--- a/Documentation/admin-guide/reporting-issues.rst
+++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/reporting-issues.rst
@@ -92,9 +92,17 @@ following the others is usually in your own interest.
 
  [:ref:`details <taintone_repiref>`]
 
+.. _checkenv_repisbs:
+
+* Evaluate briefly if some glitch in your kernel's environment might make it
+  misbehave -- like a hardware defect, an updated system firmware, a
+  misconfigured BIOS, an overclocked component, a kernel parameter enabling
+  something unsupported, a broken initramfs, an inconsistent file system,
+  changes to the linux-firmware files, or some malfunction/misconfiguration in
+  your Linux distribution.
+
+ [:ref:`details <checkenv_repiref>`]
 
- * Make sure it's not the kernel's surroundings that are causing the issue
-   you face.
 
  * Perform a rough search for existing reports with your favorite internet
    search engine; additionally, check the archives of the `Linux Kernel Mailing
@@ -481,39 +489,49 @@ These are the most frequent reasons why the kernel set the flag:
 [:ref:`back to step-by-step guide <taintone_repisbs>`]
 
 
-Ensure a healthy environment
-----------------------------
+.. _checkenv_repiref:
+
+Ensure there is nothing wrong with the kernel's surroundings
+------------------------------------------------------------
+
+  *Evaluate briefly if some glitch in your kernel's environment might make it
+  misbehave -- like a* [:ref:`... <checkenv_repisbs>`]
+
+Problems that look like a kernel issue are sometimes caused by its
+surroundings. It is impossible to detect sometimes -- but it is wise to rule
+out a few common causes before wasting time on a meaningless bug report:
+
+* When dealing with a regression (e.g., something stopped working or works worse
+  after updating the kernel), make sure it is not something else that changed
+  in parallel. That could be something else you updated at the same time, like
+  the BIOS, the boot loader, Mesa, the linux-firmware package, or something
+  else close to the kernel; but it could also be some change you performed in
+  the BIOS setup or your Linux distribution's configuration.
+
+* Try to make sure the hardware is healthy, as problems with it can result in a
+  multitude of issues that look like kernel bugs.
 
-    *Make sure it's not the kernel's surroundings that are causing the issue
-    you face.*
+  Ideally try to rule out faulty RAM or a dying device causes the problem.
 
-Problems that look a lot like a kernel issue are sometimes caused by build or
-runtime environment. It's hard to rule out that problem completely, but you
-should minimize it:
+  Also ensure your computer components run within their design specifications;
+  that is especially important for the main processor, the RAM, and the
+  motherboard. Therefore, stop undervolting or overclocking when facing a
+  potential kernel issue.
 
- * Use proven tools when building your kernel, as bugs in the compiler or the
-   binutils can cause the resulting kernel to misbehave.
+* Temporarily remove any optional kernel parameters you use, as they might
+  enable unsupported or experimental features.
 
- * Ensure your computer components run within their design specifications;
-   that's especially important for the main processor, the main memory, and the
-   motherboard. Therefore, stop undervolting or overclocking when facing a
-   potential kernel issue.
+* In case of any problems related to booting, check if the initramfs was
+  generated correctly.
 
- * Try to make sure it's not faulty hardware that is causing your issue. Bad
-   main memory for example can result in a multitude of issues that will
-   manifest itself in problems looking like kernel issues.
+* When dealing with a file system issue, check the file
+  system in question with ``fsck``, as it might be damaged in a way that leads
+  to unexpected kernel behavior.
 
- * If you're dealing with a filesystem issue, you might want to check the file
-   system in question with ``fsck``, as it might be damaged in a way that leads
-   to unexpected kernel behavior.
+* Use proven tools when building your kernel, as bugs in the compiler or the
+  linker can cause the resulting kernel to misbehave.
 
- * When dealing with a regression, make sure it's not something else that
-   changed in parallel to updating the kernel. The problem for example might be
-   caused by other software that was updated at the same time. It can also
-   happen that a hardware component coincidentally just broke when you rebooted
-   into a new kernel for the first time. Updating the systems BIOS or changing
-   something in the BIOS Setup can also lead to problems that on look a lot
-   like a kernel regression.
+[:ref:`back to step-by-step guide <checkenv_repisbs>`]
 
 
 Search for existing reports, first run
-- 
2.51.0


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-10-26 12:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-26 12:41 [PATCH v1 00/30] docs: reporting-issues: rework Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:41 ` [PATCH v1 01/30] docs: reporting-issues: mention text is best viewed rendered Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-27 17:18   ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-10-27 21:19   ` Randy Dunlap
2025-10-26 12:41 ` [PATCH v1 02/30] docs: reporting-issues: tweak the reference section intro Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-27 17:27   ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-10-26 12:41 ` [PATCH v1 03/30] docs: reporting-issues: add conclusion to the step-by-step guide Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-27 17:29   ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-10-26 12:41 ` [PATCH v1 04/30] docs: reporting-issues: add proper appendix Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-27 17:38   ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-10-26 12:41 ` [PATCH v1 05/30] docs: reporting-issues: outline why reporting is complicated Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-27 17:44   ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-10-26 12:41 ` [PATCH v1 06/30] docs: reporting-issues: replace TLDR guide with more of an into Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-28 21:32   ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-10-26 12:41 ` [PATCH v1 07/30] docs: reporting-issues: explain need for fresh vanilla kernel Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-28 21:40   ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-10-26 12:41 ` [PATCH v1 08/30] docs: reporting-issues: add step about processing issues separately Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-28 21:42   ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 09/30] docs: reporting-issues: tell users to check the kernel log Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-28 21:43   ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 10/30] docs: reporting-issues: move 'check tainted flag' upwards Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-28 21:47   ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 11/30] docs: reporting-issues: improve first tainted check Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 12/30] docs: reporting-issues: move 'check environment' upwards Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` Thorsten Leemhuis [this message]
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 14/30] docs: reporting-issues: improve text about checking for existing issues Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 15/30] docs: reporting-issues: improve text on classifying the bug Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 16/30] docs: reporting-issues: add fast-track for regressions Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 17/30] docs: reporting-issues: move text on 'check MAINTAINERS file' upwards Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 18/30] docs: reporting-issues: improve text on looking up place to report Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 19/30] docs: reporting-issues: move text on 'check other places' upwards Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 20/30] docs: reporting-issues: improve text on check other places Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 21/30] docs: reporting-issues: improve text on backup et. al Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 22/30] docs: reporting-issues: move text on 'initial write-up' upwards Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 23/30] docs: reporting-issues: improve text on initial write-up Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 24/30] docs: reporting-issues: improve text on bug verification Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 25/30] docs: reporting-issues: improve text on non-regressions in stable Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 26/30] docs: reporting-issues: improve text on second search Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 27/30] docs: reporting-issues: make collecting files a separate step Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 28/30] docs: reporting-issues: separate steps for optimizing and submitting reports Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 29/30] docs: reporting-issues: separate steps for follow-up tasks Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 30/30] docs: reporting-issues: fix a few line breaks Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-27 17:16 ` [PATCH v1 00/30] docs: reporting-issues: rework Jonathan Corbet

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