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From: Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@leemhuis.info>
To: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Cc: workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	regressions@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [PATCH v1 26/30] docs: reporting-issues: improve text on second search
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2025 13:42:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <91a969bd0db253f59f579ec3a080404029756d3b.1761481839.git.linux@leemhuis.info> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cover.1761481839.git.linux@leemhuis.info>

Fine-tune the instructions about searching lore again while dropping the
text on optimizing the write-up how to reproduce the issue: this is left
to a later step now.

Signed-off-by: Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@leemhuis.info>
---
 .../admin-guide/reporting-issues.rst          | 38 ++++++++++---------
 1 file changed, 20 insertions(+), 18 deletions(-)

diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/reporting-issues.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/reporting-issues.rst
index a78060098c59f0..aad98ccb49add8 100644
--- a/Documentation/admin-guide/reporting-issues.rst
+++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/reporting-issues.rst
@@ -257,11 +257,17 @@ following the others is usually in your own interest.
 
  [:ref:`details <verify_repiref>`]
 
- * Optimize your notes: try to find and write the most straightforward way to
-   reproduce your issue. Make sure the end result has all the important
-   details, and at the same time is easy to read and understand for others
-   that hear about it for the first time. And if you learned something in this
-   process, consider searching again for existing reports about the issue.
+.. _checkloretwo_repisbs:
+
+* If you performed a bisection or learned anything new about the bug while
+  following this guide so far, search once more for earlier reports
+  and fixes. In the bisection case, you want to search
+  `lore <https://lore.kernel.org/all/>`_   for the culprit's mainline commit-id
+  abbreviated to seven characters immediately followed by an asterisk (e.g.,
+  '`1f2e3d4 <https://lore.kernel.org/all/?q=1f2e3d4*>`_'); if that does not
+  produce any valuable insights, search for the commit's title, too.
+
+ [:ref:`details <checkloretwo_repiref>`]
 
  * If your failure involves a 'panic', 'Oops', 'warning', or 'BUG', consider
    decoding the kernel log to find the line of code that triggered the error.
@@ -988,23 +994,19 @@ more detailed instructions, follow Documentation/admin-guide/verify-bugs-and-bis
 [:ref:`back to step-by-step guide <verify_repisbs>`]
 
 
-Optimize description to reproduce issue
----------------------------------------
+.. _checkloretwo_repiref:
 
-    *Optimize your notes: try to find and write the most straightforward way to
-    reproduce your issue. Make sure the end result has all the important
-    details, and at the same time is easy to read and understand for others
-    that hear about it for the first time. And if you learned something in this
-    process, consider searching again for existing reports about the issue.*
+Search again
+------------
 
-An unnecessarily complex report will make it hard for others to understand your
-report. Thus try to find a reproducer that's straight forward to describe and
-thus easy to understand in written form. Include all important details, but at
-the same time try to keep it as short as possible.
+  *If you performed a bisection or learned anything new about the bug
+  while following this guide so far, search once more* [:ref:`... <checkloretwo_repisbs>`]
 
-In this in the previous steps you likely have learned a thing or two about the
+During the previous step you likely have learned a thing or two about the
 issue you face. Use this knowledge and search again for existing reports
-instead you can join.
+and potential fixes.
+
+[:ref:`back to step-by-step guide <checkloretwo_repisbs>`]
 
 
 Decode failure messages
-- 
2.51.0


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-10-26 12:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-26 12:41 [PATCH v1 00/30] docs: reporting-issues: rework Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:41 ` [PATCH v1 01/30] docs: reporting-issues: mention text is best viewed rendered Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-27 17:18   ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-10-27 21:19   ` Randy Dunlap
2025-10-26 12:41 ` [PATCH v1 02/30] docs: reporting-issues: tweak the reference section intro Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-27 17:27   ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-10-26 12:41 ` [PATCH v1 03/30] docs: reporting-issues: add conclusion to the step-by-step guide Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-27 17:29   ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-10-26 12:41 ` [PATCH v1 04/30] docs: reporting-issues: add proper appendix Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-27 17:38   ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-10-26 12:41 ` [PATCH v1 05/30] docs: reporting-issues: outline why reporting is complicated Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-27 17:44   ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-10-26 12:41 ` [PATCH v1 06/30] docs: reporting-issues: replace TLDR guide with more of an into Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-28 21:32   ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-10-26 12:41 ` [PATCH v1 07/30] docs: reporting-issues: explain need for fresh vanilla kernel Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-28 21:40   ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-10-26 12:41 ` [PATCH v1 08/30] docs: reporting-issues: add step about processing issues separately Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-28 21:42   ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 09/30] docs: reporting-issues: tell users to check the kernel log Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-28 21:43   ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 10/30] docs: reporting-issues: move 'check tainted flag' upwards Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-28 21:47   ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 11/30] docs: reporting-issues: improve first tainted check Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 12/30] docs: reporting-issues: move 'check environment' upwards Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 13/30] docs: reporting-issues: improve environment check Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 14/30] docs: reporting-issues: improve text about checking for existing issues Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 15/30] docs: reporting-issues: improve text on classifying the bug Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 16/30] docs: reporting-issues: add fast-track for regressions Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 17/30] docs: reporting-issues: move text on 'check MAINTAINERS file' upwards Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 18/30] docs: reporting-issues: improve text on looking up place to report Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 19/30] docs: reporting-issues: move text on 'check other places' upwards Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 20/30] docs: reporting-issues: improve text on check other places Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 21/30] docs: reporting-issues: improve text on backup et. al Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 22/30] docs: reporting-issues: move text on 'initial write-up' upwards Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 23/30] docs: reporting-issues: improve text on initial write-up Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 24/30] docs: reporting-issues: improve text on bug verification Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 25/30] docs: reporting-issues: improve text on non-regressions in stable Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` Thorsten Leemhuis [this message]
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 27/30] docs: reporting-issues: make collecting files a separate step Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 28/30] docs: reporting-issues: separate steps for optimizing and submitting reports Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 29/30] docs: reporting-issues: separate steps for follow-up tasks Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-26 12:42 ` [PATCH v1 30/30] docs: reporting-issues: fix a few line breaks Thorsten Leemhuis
2025-10-27 17:16 ` [PATCH v1 00/30] docs: reporting-issues: rework Jonathan Corbet

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