From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from ms.lwn.net (ms.lwn.net [45.79.88.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E675072627; Mon, 25 Aug 2025 05:10:37 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=45.79.88.28 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1756098640; cv=none; b=EOWbHM1Ad5W9YhWbCaylJ29A73djH0QboBRJeW2trhgO4UmU+4DS1ttPNHb7KZAxoalx2SDNbJygqVa2MiW7zwDmF0BOs5kgd5p5mOTmoiWrjMkPQi5GOfrNKwy9b+9CS+lZklR4a/Vwg2GmniHPwcrFW5y67xDIqjCpbeLm+hs= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1756098640; c=relaxed/simple; bh=Lsjhk9T8cV4gVBBVBD2lz4ttT3/LoiUhIZ0SJIr4vms=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ba5xeSuU9taR+spM4N1neJ8O2xsROu+EBAyUWwdgHk+ZXDIc4Txq/JhDiiD1KmXDN1rkWbfn4JHDG08iv3BuZzSJeBqGhXKgpm3OZCUBlwLIvj23Nh9hvQ+RuYa5cU5BMxSzB8/gsc9XDjw6uyCF2uuO0WmiLf93o+khZ0nAtPc= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=lwn.net; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lwn.net; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=lwn.net header.i=@lwn.net header.b=sQ18hcSe; arc=none smtp.client-ip=45.79.88.28 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=lwn.net Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lwn.net Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=lwn.net header.i=@lwn.net header.b="sQ18hcSe" DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 ms.lwn.net 1826240ADA DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lwn.net; s=20201203; t=1756098631; bh=6Sw1yYW0zL/72spSU8wSWHNj3CwEXvMx5At3t1+a5Ro=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=sQ18hcSerCi8U2UeVULKFv17OKMcGVrFlEjVfc4+YsYQTQ23MMIedPF8smvXYKGsB k5hDMSKRN7I48JRmjXUQzCGNx9UdYpOep169rJGVN/TfyLBUZkBm3VXypedDxc5xBc yqS70rmWTfHJ+1E8zKgAKt3x3Ohv4+cNbb/b31wP0folQlL5t6RAklct67/mCQ5tgX faa0Qf4K3ZJ7SKXgxFgmiUTzllZYUQxSZERKNMR9wgHiUlhOu9m+6jmzCpAU+S8+N2 WvPEziMZ0pcfIQM03lDgMtBE1vT2y7qQwK6DeemmvTct4b6fTsSe1SuZsvU1RvCerP 9Wc9WuGrmhZig== Received: from localhost (mdns.lwn.net [45.79.72.68]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by ms.lwn.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1826240ADA; Mon, 25 Aug 2025 05:10:30 +0000 (UTC) From: Jonathan Corbet To: I Viswanath Cc: workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, skhan@linuxfoundation.org, linux-kernel-mentees@lists.linux.dev, I Viswanath Subject: Re: [PATCH] Documentation: process: Fix grammar errors in management-style.rst In-Reply-To: <20250824185015.6312-1-viswanathiyyappan@gmail.com> References: <20250824185015.6312-1-viswanathiyyappan@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2025 23:10:29 -0600 Message-ID: <87y0r8c7ga.fsf@trenco.lwn.net> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: workflows@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I Viswanath writes: > Fix various grammatical errors in management-style.rst > > Signed-off-by: I Viswanath Thank you for working to improve our documentation...I don't think I can apply this patch, though. Your signoff should include your full name, please. But more importantly... > --- > Documentation/process/management-style.rst | 8 ++++---- > 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/Documentation/process/management-style.rst b/Documentation/process/management-style.rst > index dfbc69bf49d4..4ae05a89950a 100644 > --- a/Documentation/process/management-style.rst > +++ b/Documentation/process/management-style.rst > @@ -15,8 +15,8 @@ to do with reality. It started as a lark, but that doesn't mean that it > might not actually be true. You'll have to decide for yourself. > > Btw, when talking about "kernel manager", it's all about the technical > -lead persons, not the people who do traditional management inside > -companies. If you sign purchase orders or you have any clue about the > +leads, not those who do traditional management inside > +companies. If you sign purchase orders or have any clue about the This change is OK, but what was there was OK too > budget of your group, you're almost certainly not a kernel manager. > These suggestions may or may not apply to you. > > @@ -42,9 +42,9 @@ actually true. > The name of the game is to **avoid** having to make a decision. In > particular, if somebody tells you "choose (a) or (b), we really need you > to decide on this", you're in trouble as a manager. The people you > -manage had better know the details better than you, so if they come to > +manage better know the details better than you; if they come to This one changes the meaning of the sentence > you for a technical decision, you're screwed. You're clearly not > -competent to make that decision for them. > +competent enough to make that decision for them. ...and this one was fine as it was. > (Corollary:if the people you manage don't know the details better than > you, you're also screwed, although for a totally different reason. > -- In general, this kind of playing with the wording for text that is not actually wrong is not hugely helpful; I would encourage you to look elsewhere for places to contribute to the documentation. Thanks, jon