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From: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
To: Ahmad Fatoum <a.fatoum@pengutronix.de>
Cc: workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Frank Li <Frank.li@nxp.com>,
	kernel@pengutronix.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 2/2] docs: process: submitting-patches: clarify imperative mood suggestion
Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2025 07:57:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sepwt2fe.fsf@trenco.lwn.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <adf12374-30e1-48bd-9f73-fabc5a8c2357@pengutronix.de>

Ahmad Fatoum <a.fatoum@pengutronix.de> writes:

> Hello Jon,
>
> On 30.12.24 19:40, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
>> Ahmad Fatoum <a.fatoum@pengutronix.de> writes:
>> 
>>> While we expect commit message titles to use the imperative mood,
>>> it's ok for commit message bodies to first include a blurb describing
>>> the background of the patch, before delving into what's being done
>>> to address the situation.
>>>
>>> Make this clearer by adding a clarification after the imperative mood
>>> suggestion as well as listing Rob Herring's commit 52bb69be6790
>>> ("dt-bindings: ata: pata-common: Add missing additionalProperties on
>>> child nodes") as a good example commit message.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Ahmad Fatoum <a.fatoum@pengutronix.de>
>> 
>> I'm rather less convinced about this one.  We already have a whole
>> section on describing changes.  Given that this crucial document is
>> already long and hard enough to get through, I don't really think that
>> adding some duplicate information - and the noise of more labels - is
>> going to improve things.
>
> Do you agree with the content of the patch in principle?
>
> My changes were motivated by a disagreement about the necessity of having
> to use the imperative mood throughout as I described in my cover letter,
> so I still think think that a clarification is appropriate.
>
> Would a v2 without the example at the end be acceptable?

I will always consider a patch, but the example isn't the concern,
really.  The information you are trying to add to an already too-long
document is already present there; I think that repeating it, and making
this crucial document that much more unapproachable, would actively make
things worse.

Thanks,

jon

  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-06 14:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-20  9:09 [PATCH RFC 0/2] " Ahmad Fatoum
2024-12-20  9:09 ` [PATCH RFC 1/2] docs: process: submitting-patches: split canonical patch format section Ahmad Fatoum
2024-12-30 18:38   ` Jonathan Corbet
2024-12-20  9:09 ` [PATCH RFC 2/2] docs: process: submitting-patches: clarify imperative mood suggestion Ahmad Fatoum
2024-12-30 18:40   ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-01-06 14:51     ` Ahmad Fatoum
2025-01-06 14:57       ` Jonathan Corbet [this message]
2025-01-06 15:02         ` Ahmad Fatoum

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