From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from ms.lwn.net (ms.lwn.net [45.79.88.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 411781A8F85; Fri, 13 Dec 2024 16:17:20 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=45.79.88.28 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1734106641; cv=none; b=NOllIcn7/iwInx9W22aqkabIkJRPWub/oHz5DH7M+H287nnRI3yobolV7csFEM1NeKvqTrY58xGiP9GHspHxNy3bKk/Qmtljc/COYN+4f+tgpFMTPrlNshoZejrAPAN0b7MM9SUJRSD/UuFB4mR7S0jkv/VGhSfg1mOcan9Md6Q= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1734106641; c=relaxed/simple; bh=+dJ68RIsRoIe9ROeamp5ETBUKbEHGag5dwxVODWz2hM=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZPcTjGzAm6fqIoIAXk/kOF6+hgF/8W2wX9kW84EDxH1q80UsG3aQC1cTyyyryHnZgI2My8WWTym6kbH6bHy7wgR+nf3u04cyjppKJaUjmBC5mbN0/otc0f5guGkLnPkLk19KALR7+Et6zi9yEFksw3SKpzWaZQvRjiUMpPvyQAU= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=lwn.net; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lwn.net; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=lwn.net header.i=@lwn.net header.b=rh9IxRmI; arc=none smtp.client-ip=45.79.88.28 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=lwn.net Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lwn.net Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=lwn.net header.i=@lwn.net header.b="rh9IxRmI" DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 ms.lwn.net 779FE403FA DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lwn.net; s=20201203; t=1734106639; bh=FiuX+b/jLcioRKLB2x5/1NihUC8qYW6jvfUzEWIHeas=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=rh9IxRmIHB5oqzQhcq2dnDPFQuek5G5FcsoXRBmuA635/0BK4a0AyAaxJ5Dn730zI ziOUI/HO8weG6xuoLkF8caFFnKAcOosJTefI79Hvn8DWaZMBxDjHIiZT9gOPs3twte ivezLpkZqwnqRvuupLm+DirbaevYM1TgGnzKcJnSsauQ3oZe39Fu1jYb4xTzv6k6b0 wUYEtJceGpofnIZQTfwzrboixcUZ1HJ/+6D2cYc6iaMVfPgybcNkHYWWMsvOGw2DO1 XjwevGsDgQ/zL1/FQV8uJWl4beb2jSZWHjc2F4veUfGqq/vAevOV7fx9Mji8eeYXJ8 /V9Wf+vKjr0YQ== Received: from localhost (unknown [IPv6:2601:280:5e00:625::1fe]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by ms.lwn.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 779FE403FA; Fri, 13 Dec 2024 16:17:19 +0000 (UTC) From: Jonathan Corbet To: Thorsten Leemhuis , workflows@vger.kernel.org, regressions@lists.linux.dev, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org Cc: Linus Torvalds , Greg KH Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/6] docs: 6.Followthrough.rst: when to involved Linus in regressions In-Reply-To: <9344b8bf12ce5ebe838d154d5c4f1baf515a9452.1733825632.git.linux@leemhuis.info> References: <9344b8bf12ce5ebe838d154d5c4f1baf515a9452.1733825632.git.linux@leemhuis.info> Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 09:17:18 -0700 Message-ID: <87ikrnwoa9.fsf@trenco.lwn.net> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: workflows@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Thorsten Leemhuis writes: > Add a few notes on when to involve Linus in regressions. Part of this > spells out slightly obvious things infrequent developers might not be > aware of, while others are based on a recent statement from Linus[1]. > > This removes equivalent paragraphs from a section in > Documentation/process/handling-regressions.rst, which will become mostly > obsolete through this and follow-up changes. > > Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAHk-=wis_qQy4oDNynNKi5b7Qhosmxtoj1jxo5wmB6SRUwQUBQ@mail.gmail.com/ [1] > Signed-off-by: Thorsten Leemhuis > --- > Documentation/process/6.Followthrough.rst | 17 +++++++++++++++++ > Documentation/process/handling-regressions.rst | 17 ----------------- > 2 files changed, 17 insertions(+), 17 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/Documentation/process/6.Followthrough.rst b/Documentation/process/6.Followthrough.rst > index ed5e32348f2403..f9ae3a86ee0c49 100644 > --- a/Documentation/process/6.Followthrough.rst > +++ b/Documentation/process/6.Followthrough.rst > @@ -217,6 +217,23 @@ On procedure: > on the fix and the alignment with pull requests it might be beneficial to > have them in there for a day or two. > > + - If a regression seems tangly, precarious, or urgent, consider CCing Linus on > + discussions and patch reviews; do the same if the responsible maintainers > + are suspected to be unavailable. I'm not quite sure what "tangly" or "precarious" means in this case? > + - For urgent fixes, consider asking Linus to pick them up straight from the > + mailing list: he is totally fine with that for occasional and uncontroversial > + fixes. Such requests should ideally come directly from maintainers or happen > + in accordance with them. > + > + - In case you are unsure if a fix is worth the risk applying just days before > + a new mainline release, send Linus a mail with the usual lists, developers, > + and maintainers in CC; in it, summarize the situation while asking him to s/usual/appropriate/ ? That's all. jon