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From: Yanteng Si <si.yanteng@linux.dev>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, workflows@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] docs: submitting-patches: document the format for affiliation
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2025 16:21:47 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7bcc5cd8-dd19-46a5-9f27-b81c14eefe3f@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <65c2c9d3-e173-4475-a58e-168aa087b889@kernel.org>

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>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst b/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst
>>>>> index 8fdc0ef3e604..12ed28b3d113 100644
>>>>> --- a/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst
>>>>> +++ b/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst
>>>>> @@ -717,6 +717,12 @@ patch in the permanent changelog.  If the ``from`` line is missing,
>>>>>     then the ``From:`` line from the email header will be used to determine
>>>>>     the patch author in the changelog.
>>>>>     
>>>>> +The author may indicate their affiliation or the sponsor of the work
>>>>> +by adding the name of an organization to the ``from`` and ``SoB`` lines,
>>>>> +e.g.:
>>>>> +
>>>>> +	From: Patch Author (Company) <author@example.com>
>>>>> +
>>>> It looks great, but I'm a bit worried that it could be misused,
>>>> which might cause trouble for some companies. Even without
>>>> this patch, there's no way to prevent the misuse.
>>>> Consider the following situation:
>>>>
>>>> From: Yanteng Si (linux foundation) <si.yanteng@linux.dev>
>>>>
>>>> Obviously, I'm not a member of the Linux Foundation.
>>> Nothing stops you from doing this now, because mentioned format is
>>> already accepted.
>>>
>>>> This might seem a bit absurd, but I think it could actually happen,
>>>> especially with some driver code. Hardware manufacturers would
>>>> prefer to upstream their code under the guidance of their companies,
>>>> considering subsequent hardware iterations. However, if some
>>>> enthusiasts pretend to be company employees, and the maintainer,
>>>> trusting the tag, actively applies the patches, it could disrupt the
>>>> rhythm of the hardware manufacturers and is not conducive to code
>>>> maintenance in the long run.
>>> We trust people, not companies, so I think it does not matter for the
>>> trust what is written in ().
>>>
>>>
>>>> How about we add one more part: The organization name in
>>>> the parentheses doesn't necessarily represent the developer's
>>>> relationship with that organization, especially when it doesn't
>>>> match the email domain name. Maintainers should be cautious
>>>> and verify carefully before applying patches.
>>> Sorry, but how? First, maintainers have already a lot on their plate and
>>> you want to ask them to do some more checks? And how would these checks
>>> look like? Shall I ask people to give me certificates of employement or
>>> their contracts?
>> That's not necessary. Just ignore the content inside the parentheses
>>
>> during the review. This will instead reduce the workload of the maintainers.
> Hm? You said submitting patches document should instruct maintainers to
> "verify carefully". Verify what?
If the maintainer ignores the content in the brackets,
there is no need for verification. If the maintainer unavoidably
takes into account the content in the brackets while reviewing
the code, then the maintainer can ask the developer to contact
the organization mentioned in the brackets to help review the patch.
>
> We all ignore the content inside the parentheses, because it is not
> relevant to the code. I don't understand what sort of problem you want
> to solve with proposed text.

My original intention was to clarify this matter in the form of a document.


Thanks,

Yanteng



  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-06  8:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-03 17:46 Jakub Kicinski
2025-02-04  7:59 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-02-04 15:18   ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-02-04 15:49     ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-02-04 16:13       ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-02-04 18:05         ` Randy Dunlap
2025-02-04 19:33           ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-02-04 19:43             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-02-04 19:43           ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-02-05  7:37 ` Yanteng Si
2025-02-05 14:23   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-02-05 14:52     ` Yanteng Si
2025-02-05 14:57       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-02-06  8:21         ` Yanteng Si [this message]
2025-02-10 18:38 ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-02-10 18:45   ` Konstantin Ryabitsev

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