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Patch attribution is separate from giving thanks. I would much rather someone take the time to say "Thanks" in the changelog with some supporting text rather than boil down all the myriad ways to be thankful into a generic tag. "git log --grep=Thanks" often yields valuable details, beyond just attribution, on how people have helped each other develop this global project of ours. If the introduction of Helped-by would replace even one authentic "Thank you" note with a generic tag then it is a net loss for the community.