From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EEE4C433FE for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2022 10:10:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229640AbiJCKKS (ORCPT ); Mon, 3 Oct 2022 06:10:18 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:41876 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229459AbiJCKKQ (ORCPT ); Mon, 3 Oct 2022 06:10:16 -0400 Received: from wp530.webpack.hosteurope.de (wp530.webpack.hosteurope.de [IPv6:2a01:488:42:1000:50ed:8234::]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2726F23173; Mon, 3 Oct 2022 03:10:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [2a02:8108:963f:de38:eca4:7d19:f9a2:22c5]; authenticated by wp530.webpack.hosteurope.de running ExIM with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) id 1ofIOo-0000U1-7o; Mon, 03 Oct 2022 12:10:10 +0200 Message-ID: <63a8403d-b937-f870-3a9e-f92232d5306c@leemhuis.info> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2022 12:10:09 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.3.1 Content-Language: en-US, de-DE From: Thorsten Leemhuis To: Konstantin Ryabitsev Cc: "Artem S. Tashkinov" , workflows@vger.kernel.org, LKML , Greg KH , Linus Torvalds , "regressions@lists.linux.dev" , ksummit@lists.linux.dev References: <05d149a0-e3de-8b09-ecc0-3ea73e080be3@leemhuis.info> Subject: Re: Planned changes for bugzilla.kernel.org to reduce the "Bugzilla blues" In-Reply-To: <05d149a0-e3de-8b09-ecc0-3ea73e080be3@leemhuis.info> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-bounce-key: webpack.hosteurope.de;linux@leemhuis.info;1664791813;2542fa30; X-HE-SMSGID: 1ofIOo-0000U1-7o Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: workflows@vger.kernel.org On 29.09.22 13:33, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > On 29.09.22 13:19, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >> >> TLDR: Core Linux kernel developers are unhappy with the state of >> bugzilla.kernel.org; to improve things I plan to change a few important >> aspects of its configuration, unless somebody comes up with better ideas >> to tackle current problems: (1) Create a catch-all product making it >> totally obvious to submitters that likely nobody will look into the >> ticket. (2) Remove or hide all products & components where the subsystem >> didn't fully commit to look into newly submitted reports. (3) Change the >> text on the front page to make it clear that most kernel bug reports >> need to be sent by mail. Well, there are lots of interesting things discussed in this thread for a time when a bugzilla replacement needs to be found. But one thing afaics is pretty clear for the time being: we as the kernel development community are not going to double down on bugzilla now. Thing is: bugzilla.kernel.org is there and will be for a while, as it provides services that some developers rely on. And it has some problems, as widely known and outlined in my mail. Reducing those for now by performing a few small changes (aka applying some band-aids here and there) as outlined above IMHO is worth it to reduce the pain. There was no opposition to that plan from Konstantin or core Linux kernel developers afaics (please correct me if I'm wrong), so I'll likely start working on realizing it later this week, unless I get "no, please don't/please wait" from those people. Ciao, Thorsten