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From: Minas Hambardzumyan <minas@ti.com>
To: Donald Zickus <dzickus@redhat.com>, <workflows@vger.kernel.org>,
	<automated-testing@lists.yoctoproject.org>,
	<linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org>,
	kernelci <kernelci@lists.linux.dev>
Cc: Nikolai Kondrashov <nkondras@redhat.com>,
	Gustavo Padovan <gustavo.padovan@collabora.com>,
	kernelci-members <kernelci-members@groups.io>,
	<laura.nao@collabora.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Test catalog template
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2024 07:31:44 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6366eab3-4318-7b8b-686e-f9d5d320badb@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK18DXYitS7hL1mA3QsPLmW9-R0q6Kin0C5Uv9fj=uS90WSnxA@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/14/24 15:32, Donald Zickus wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> At Linux Plumbers, a few dozen of us gathered together to discuss how
> to expose what tests subsystem maintainers would like to run for every
> patch submitted or when CI runs tests.  We agreed on a mock up of a
> yaml template to start gathering info.  The yaml file could be
> temporarily stored on kernelci.org until a more permanent home could
> be found.  Attached is a template to start the conversation.
> 
> Longer story.
> 
> The current problem is CI systems are not unanimous about what tests
> they run on submitted patches or git branches.  This makes it
> difficult to figure out why a test failed or how to reproduce.
> Further, it isn't always clear what tests a normal contributor should
> run before posting patches.
> 
> It has been long communicated that the tests LTP, xfstest and/or
> kselftests should be the tests  to run.  However, not all maintainers
> use those tests for their subsystems.  I am hoping to either capture
> those tests or find ways to convince them to add their tests to the
> preferred locations.
> 
> The goal is for a given subsystem (defined in MAINTAINERS), define a
> set of tests that should be run for any contributions to that
> subsystem.  The hope is the collective CI results can be triaged
> collectively (because they are related) and even have the numerous
> flakes waived collectively  (same reason) improving the ability to
> find and debug new test failures.  Because the tests and process are
> known, having a human help debug any failures becomes easier.
> 
> The plan is to put together a minimal yaml template that gets us going
> (even if it is not optimized yet) and aim for about a dozen or so
> subsystems.  At that point we should have enough feedback to promote
> this more seriously and talk optimizations.
> 
> Feedback encouraged.
> 
> Cheers,
> Don
> 
> ---
> # List of tests by subsystem
> #
> # Tests should adhere to KTAP definitions for results
> #
> # Description of section entries
> #
> #  maintainer:    test maintainer - name <email>
> #  list:                mailing list for discussion
> #  version:         stable version of the test
> #  dependency: necessary distro package for testing
> #  test:
> #    path:            internal git path or url to fetch from
> #    cmd:            command to run; ability to run locally
> #    param:         additional param necessary to run test
> #  hardware:      hardware necessary for validation
> #
> # Subsystems (alphabetical)
> 
> KUNIT TEST:
>    maintainer:
>      - name: name1
>        email: email1
>      - name: name2
>        email: email2
>    list:
>    version:
>    dependency:
>      - dep1
>      - dep2
>    test:
>      - path: tools/testing/kunit
>        cmd:
>        param:
>      - path:
>        cmd:
>        param:
>    hardware: none
> 
> 

Don,

thanks for initiating this! I have a few questions/suggestions:

I think the root element in a section (`KUNIT TEST` in your example) is 
expected to be a container of multiple test definitions ( so there will 
be one for LTP, KSelfTest, etc) -- can you confirm?

Assuming above is correct and `test` is a container of multiple test 
definitions, can we add more properties to each:
   * name -- would be a unique name id for each test
   * description -- short description of the test.
   * arch -- applicable platform architectures
   * runtime -- This is subjective as it can be different for different 
systems. but maybe we can have some generic names, like 'SHORT', 
'MEDIUM', 'LONG', etc and each system may scale the timeout locally?

I see you have a `Subsystems` entry in comments section, but not in the 
example. Do you expect it to be part of this file, or will there be a 
file per each subsystem?

Can we define what we mean by a `test`? For me this is a group of one or 
more individual testcases that can be initiated with a single 
command-line, and is expected to run in a 'reasonable' time. Any other 
thoughts?

Thanks!
Minas



  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-10-17 12:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-14 20:32 Donald Zickus
2024-10-15 16:01 ` [Automated-testing] " Bird, Tim
2024-10-16 13:10   ` Cyril Hrubis
2024-10-16 18:02     ` Donald Zickus
2024-10-17 11:01       ` Cyril Hrubis
2024-10-16 18:00   ` Donald Zickus
2024-10-17 12:31 ` Minas Hambardzumyan [this message]
2024-10-18 19:44   ` Donald Zickus
2024-10-18  7:21 ` David Gow
2024-10-18 14:23   ` Gustavo Padovan
2024-10-18 14:35     ` [Automated-testing] " Cyril Hrubis
2024-10-18 19:17   ` Mark Brown
2024-10-18 20:17   ` Donald Zickus
2024-10-19  6:36     ` David Gow
2024-11-06 17:01       ` Donald Zickus
2024-11-20  8:16         ` David Gow
2024-11-21 15:28           ` Donald Zickus

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