From: Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>, Dragan Simic <dsimic@manjaro.org>
Cc: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
apw@canonical.com, joe@perches.com, dwaipayanray1@gmail.com,
lukas.bulwahn@gmail.com, workflows@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
wens@csie.org, Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] Make Helped-by tag supported
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2024 17:56:43 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6288979d-3024-45fb-ba8c-f4c22149ae9a@linuxfoundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z03qJKpjBqJ9vAhY@casper.infradead.org>
On 12/2/24 10:11, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 02, 2024 at 04:00:47PM +0100, Dragan Simic wrote:
>> On 2024-11-09 04:10, Dragan Simic wrote:
>>> On 2024-11-08 20:12, Dan Williams wrote:
>>>> Dragan Simic wrote:
>>>>> I'm fully aware that we may be reluctant to supporting
>>>>> additional tags,
>>>>> because we may then end up with a whole bunch of strange tags
>>>>> that might
>>>>> be a bit hard to understand and use properly, but I think that adding
>>>>> Helped-by to the supported tag list may actually be a good thing
>>>>> to do.
>>>>> As described above, Helped-by fits very well between the Suggested-by
>>>>> tag and the Co-developed-by + Signed-off-by pair of tags, and I think
>>>>> that providing the right level of attribution may be beneficial.
>>>>
>>>> Patch attribution is separate from giving thanks. I would much rather
>>>> someone take the time to say "Thanks" in the changelog with some
>>>> supporting text rather than boil down all the myriad ways to be
>>>> thankful
>>>> into a generic tag. "git log --grep=Thanks" often yields valuable
>>>> details, beyond just attribution, on how people have helped each other
>>>> develop this global project of ours. If the introduction of Helped-by
>>>> would replace even one authentic "Thank you" note with a generic tag
>>>> then it is a net loss for the community.
>>>
>>> I do agree that writing "Thanks John for helping with..." in a patch
>>> description would be nice, but unfortunately I've seen multiple times
>>> that people don't enjoy writing their patch descriptions at all, and
>>> just want to "get them out the door" as quickly as possible.
>>>
>>> With that in mind, making Helped-by tags supported would allow such
>>> people to at least quickly mention someone they're thankful to, which
>>> actually wouldn't prevent anyone from saying the same more verbosely
>>> in a patch description.
>>
>> Just checking, are there any further thoughts on this patch?
>
> I agree with Dan & Jon; we don't need this tag. And if someone's doing
> a poor job of writing commit messages, they need to be helped to write
> better ones.
>
+1 on this. I don't think we need yet another tag.
thanks,
-- Shuah
prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-12-04 0:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-06 6:28 Dragan Simic
2024-11-06 6:28 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] checkpatch: " Dragan Simic
2024-11-06 6:28 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] docs: submitting-patches: Reflow one short paragraph Dragan Simic
2024-11-06 6:28 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] docs: submitting-patches: Describe the use of Helped-by tag Dragan Simic
2024-11-06 6:47 ` Dragan Simic
2024-11-06 14:28 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Make Helped-by tag supported Jonathan Corbet
2024-11-07 14:09 ` Dragan Simic
2024-11-08 19:12 ` Dan Williams
2024-11-09 3:10 ` Dragan Simic
2024-12-02 15:00 ` Dragan Simic
2024-12-02 17:11 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-12-04 0:56 ` Shuah Khan [this message]
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