From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB4E22727F6; Mon, 28 Jul 2025 16:41:07 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1753720867; cv=none; b=PRf5nGufNqd3Z/cl0g80YoIFoY0nfAcJiwQXDBxignFQhFjekU+DMUp/T/KD8B/LjY6UcqONffkaCgNAgRuKDH5tUXn7sEVl3exDcYoizLsN35GMqDPflyG8w6BpbeJ2NABvg0NmxvwB6MkAyb6R3GXbSWZP8uBA0xIkiL0Drnc= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1753720867; c=relaxed/simple; bh=S9qutYy6Xor9FZMzMNct/VB9FINEX9V03Uyt07X+gG8=; h=Date:From:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NAYP6cE9+STWSNd6Do4gFIFdsGQi3wE4lEESk3epyF4f68awzBknozcmxdod5Q7qjP/EW0f4BflDBmsMZSO3B7NgB+lnf0HHiYVJkPK2pSnMAYZmHJQ+dcF2h8Yn/pAEgOdgyYyFaDJ3iy2cTMErHbim9GggQ97lvBmTl2ycaQo= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=hd8iXgTx; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="hd8iXgTx" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 921A3C4CEE7; Mon, 28 Jul 2025 16:41:06 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1753720867; bh=S9qutYy6Xor9FZMzMNct/VB9FINEX9V03Uyt07X+gG8=; h=Date:From:To:CC:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=hd8iXgTxxeL9E0lIsfb7ZLbHJ8LYPLIY9cEnbRAQ9FBfPksMVbOxSLc/WwaJm7BU1 plOyB18OtXDJq35z0d1eFoqSjrltb+RJISXf2dmYAYyCLDI26+iQ7e+CRa58hVP+c9 IEiXrt2ul3WrJR6ksbj8J9gsSsWzwbHV4gK9/KElPLcwcCDVtJSmmpEujs8Ehk5lH+ mB8KTPNfw0SDmmK9wE+QDGLdDqSc7wKqbKQs/0vWRM5z6uwQgDb5QNU/e6XScbNp1C hYvkTxb57ZS83ZkRbg0PFPYQrd2OczN81Dex7CD9MMWq3Hi7wPntOczDHOY7o1n09C 5gI34o/TnVsMw== Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2025 09:41:05 -0700 From: Kees Cook To: dan.j.williams@intel.com, Steven Rostedt CC: Jakub Kicinski , Sasha Levin , workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, konstantin@linuxfoundation.org, corbet@lwn.net, josh@joshtriplett.org Subject: Re: [RFC 0/2] Add AI coding assistant configuration to Linux kernel User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <68879de1aaf4_e74a1008c@dwillia2-mobl4.notmuch> References: <20250725175358.1989323-1-sashal@kernel.org> <20250725114114.3b13e7b1@kernel.org> <20250725150046.3adb556c@gandalf.local.home> <202507251356.4396F1F@keescook> <68879de1aaf4_e74a1008c@dwillia2-mobl4.notmuch> Message-ID: <58B23F1B-9E09-4B30-A1AD-BF900103E971@kernel.org> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: workflows@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On July 28, 2025 8:57:21 AM PDT, dan=2Ej=2Ewilliams@intel=2Ecom wrote: >Kees Cook wrote: >> Having had to do "find all commits from [set of authors]" research for >> security audits, I would be very unhappy if I had to do this again in >> the future for a specific Agent (used any author), and had to loop lore >> into the process=2E Yes, it's *doable*, but it'd be very annoying=2E > [=2E=2E=2E] >So "doable, but very annoying" strikes me as a problem space where an AI >agent could help=2E It is not clear to me that a concise commit trailer >captures everything needed to help both the review and after the fact >forensics problem, especially when model fine tuning and prompting are >in play=2E Heh, good point=2E :) We can make all problems *with* agents and problem *= for* agents=2E :P --=20 Kees Cook