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Wed, 28 Feb 2024 15:04:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dovecot-director2.suse.de ([10.150.64.162]) by imap1.dmz-prg2.suse.org with ESMTPSA id 2XkXHnxL32W0fQAAD6G6ig (envelope-from ); Wed, 28 Feb 2024 15:04:28 +0000 Message-ID: <4fa1cbc7-0f9d-47bf-8ff7-a9b17456431e@suse.de> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 16:04:28 +0100 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: workflows@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Toy/demo: using ChatGPT to summarize lengthy LKML threads (b4 integration) Content-Language: en-US To: Willy Tarreau , Konstantin Ryabitsev Cc: users@kernel.org, tools@kernel.org, workflows@vger.kernel.org, Jon Corbet References: <20240227-flawless-capybara-of-drama-e09653@lemur> <20240228050007.GB18047@1wt.eu> From: Hannes Reinecke In-Reply-To: <20240228050007.GB18047@1wt.eu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Authentication-Results: smtp-out2.suse.de; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.09 / 50.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; BAYES_HAM(-0.00)[39.38%]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[6]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_SIGNED(0.00)[suse.de:s=susede2_rsa,suse.de:s=susede2_ed25519]; FUZZY_BLOCKED(0.00)[rspamd.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.09 On 2/28/24 06:00, Willy Tarreau wrote: > Hi Konstantin, > [ .. ] > And because of this I didn't find on what boundaries to cut the analysis, > If it's "since last time I read my email", it can only be done locally > and will be per-user. If it's a summary of a final thread, it's not > super interesting and it's better explained (IMHO) on LWN where the > hot topics are summarized and developed. If it's the list of threads > of the day, I've suspected that there are so many that it's unlikely > I'd read all of them every evening or every morning. I've been wondering > if an interesting approach would be to only summarize long threads, > since most short ones are a patch, a review and an ACK and do not need > to be summarized, but I think that most of us seeing a subject repeat > over many e-mails will just look at a few exchanges there to get an > idea of what's going on. > [ snip ] Out of personal interest I really have to chime in here. You are aware, though, that following this line of thought and improving the underlying model (which really shouldn't be too hard given the vast body of training data which is LKML) we will actually putting LWN and its editors out of business. I would be _VERY_ interesting having a discussion here with the relevant parties (Hello Jon!) to see which direction we as a community will want to go. Maybe Plumbers and/or Kernel Summit in Vienna would be a good place to start. Cheers, Hannes