From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B461C433FE for ; Sun, 2 Oct 2022 16:41:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229734AbiJBQlf convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Sun, 2 Oct 2022 12:41:35 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:36252 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229640AbiJBQld (ORCPT ); Sun, 2 Oct 2022 12:41:33 -0400 Received: from relay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0011.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.11]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 434503AE56 for ; Sun, 2 Oct 2022 09:41:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omf14.hostedemail.com (a10.router.float.18 [10.200.18.1]) by unirelay08.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D1314017F; Sun, 2 Oct 2022 16:32:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [HIDDEN] (Authenticated sender: joe@perches.com) by omf14.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 68E6D30; Sun, 2 Oct 2022 16:32:21 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <3381c74ad6862224e4511d7edf6f9681c678338b.camel@perches.com> Subject: Re: Planned changes for bugzilla.kernel.org to reduce the "Bugzilla blues" From: Joe Perches To: Geert Uytterhoeven , "Artem S. Tashkinov" Cc: Theodore Ts'o , Thorsten Leemhuis , Greg KH , Konstantin Ryabitsev , workflows@vger.kernel.org, LKML , Linus Torvalds , "regressions@lists.linux.dev" , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, Mario Limonciello Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2022 09:32:27 -0700 In-Reply-To: References: <05d149a0-e3de-8b09-ecc0-3ea73e080be3@leemhuis.info> <9a2fdff8-d0d3-ebba-d344-3c1016237fe5@gmx.com> <83f6dd2b-784a-e6d3-ebaf-6ad9cfe4eefe@gmx.com> <79bb605a-dab8-972d-aa4a-a5e5ee49387c@gmx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT User-Agent: Evolution 3.44.4 (3.44.4-2.fc36) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 68E6D30 X-Stat-Signature: a97umkgmcu7bz1ysp1mcojeuu4sn3k5p X-Rspamd-Server: rspamout07 X-Session-Marker: 6A6F6540706572636865732E636F6D X-Session-ID: U2FsdGVkX19vyxgtCVdDxa+BZU8gKI+mwpCueLiRhWM= X-HE-Tag: 1664728341-897937 Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: workflows@vger.kernel.org On Sun, 2022-10-02 at 18:08 +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > On Sun, Oct 2, 2022 at 2:49 PM Artem S. Tashkinov wrote: > > The current ill-maintained semi-functional bugzilla has proven to be a > > ton more useful than random mailing lists no sane person can keep track > > of. Bug "reports", i.e. random emails are neglected and forgotten. LKML > > is the worst of them probably. > > Such a statement really needs to be backed by numbers... > > > Let's operate with some examples: > > > > Bugzilla gets around two dozen bug reports weekly which encompass at > > most thirty emails, which equals to four emails daily on average. > > This immediately debunks your statement above. true. > $ git log v5.19..linus/master | grep Fixes: | wc -l > 2928 > > So that's 46 bugs fixed per _day_. But not really. Many, perhaps even most, of these "Fixes:" are for code introduced in -rc releases and so are a typical part of a development cycle and are not for fixes in nominally released/final versions.