From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail.manjaro.org (mail.manjaro.org [116.203.91.91]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2AD96A8D2; Sat, 9 Nov 2024 03:10:14 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=116.203.91.91 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1731121817; cv=none; b=ElQaRIGZD87crdtbrLdZav8oCmMdi3M8M2SNRc40A/4Tf7i7cY8s3Keu+diXIqA6i5gmvt6Pon3r71+c8M6tuPTPR0qBMc5/0PwPjlN5htM6CqvV/5iCub8GFywptizFc6gwTboHl2obi40g9lUEC6sU+PwogSbRNblXouEK9tM= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1731121817; c=relaxed/simple; bh=wye8iv6GBUqV4RPPtL9lLvmKw7jZ1JuvjzMoEbBOM9I=; h=MIME-Version:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References: Message-ID:Content-Type; b=NDPyVxgT7wPUYHGLMQbg1JSb9+h+tQkfiJZsk9F087HpfWlrJ5XmvDtrIye+E3UeOuWZuRWFBCJxWITABbB3eFnQFP/6ZXtQBAm+IZUqjnNNJk/6YCAvYJHKzP5CAAyOk7EljPTUAa6IBjG6KA52IUF90Ow4FC8UmfE4jK+xe68= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=manjaro.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=manjaro.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=manjaro.org header.i=@manjaro.org header.b=CuTvR9qC; arc=none smtp.client-ip=116.203.91.91 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=manjaro.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=manjaro.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=manjaro.org header.i=@manjaro.org header.b="CuTvR9qC" Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: workflows@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=manjaro.org; s=2021; t=1731121812; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=N3cjnRRWgeotFHH4xSamuV9Ko4ExVM2WbLvuwDlVztQ=; b=CuTvR9qCXexvU5xxshnqYneebcIOmWZdoRFWurnOhbmvAvolA7/N8McvUm4bU96NurxlTb /We9NJrTckaXUNBvr8MQYXii2VyQde1w0/C8A03sNFlRvu/4wBxHMmYcCNuk5cC/Oqg5GB c/OQRqdqOpNz4wig9M8XOZTXc2teQbnuvXWthVcX9u4KhGNem9zlRBdrETmo9qEdWlL2Im SkV7pdQiXu7jqK2yHMTEs3LhuLQfA4bK+iAQ57/j6fhlqK5vYaZw28IYiL/vEHa5c4Q01S hMMO8kCeVMZdRCzP4xji1GGzNrWViEtz7TY4hOU7UqrdlEOiqRKzYzZaJGMl2A== Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2024 04:10:11 +0100 From: Dragan Simic To: Dan Williams Cc: Jonathan Corbet , apw@canonical.com, joe@perches.com, dwaipayanray1@gmail.com, lukas.bulwahn@gmail.com, workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, wens@csie.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] Make Helped-by tag supported In-Reply-To: <672e628111eb0_10bc629436@dwillia2-xfh.jf.intel.com.notmuch> References: <87h68k4esb.fsf@trenco.lwn.net> <672e628111eb0_10bc629436@dwillia2-xfh.jf.intel.com.notmuch> Message-ID: <28c0a0ecc2e2880e4cb98449767e2842@manjaro.org> X-Sender: dsimic@manjaro.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Authentication-Results: ORIGINATING; auth=pass smtp.auth=dsimic@manjaro.org smtp.mailfrom=dsimic@manjaro.org Hello Dan, On 2024-11-08 20:12, Dan Williams wrote: > Dragan Simic wrote: >> I'm fully aware that we may be reluctant to supporting additional >> tags, >> because we may then end up with a whole bunch of strange tags that >> might >> be a bit hard to understand and use properly, but I think that adding >> Helped-by to the supported tag list may actually be a good thing to >> do. >> As described above, Helped-by fits very well between the Suggested-by >> tag and the Co-developed-by + Signed-off-by pair of tags, and I think >> that providing the right level of attribution may be beneficial. > > Patch attribution is separate from giving thanks. I would much rather > someone take the time to say "Thanks" in the changelog with some > supporting text rather than boil down all the myriad ways to be > thankful > into a generic tag. "git log --grep=Thanks" often yields valuable > details, beyond just attribution, on how people have helped each other > develop this global project of ours. If the introduction of Helped-by > would replace even one authentic "Thank you" note with a generic tag > then it is a net loss for the community. I do agree that writing "Thanks John for helping with..." in a patch description would be nice, but unfortunately I've seen multiple times that people don't enjoy writing their patch descriptions at all, and just want to "get them out the door" as quickly as possible. With that in mind, making Helped-by tags supported would allow such people to at least quickly mention someone they're thankful to, which actually wouldn't prevent anyone from saying the same more verbosely in a patch description.