From: Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
dan.j.williams@intel.com,
Caleb Sander Mateos <csander@purestorage.com>,
io-uring <io-uring@vger.kernel.org>,
workflows@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Link trailers revisited (was Re: [GIT PULL] io_uring fix for 6.17-rc5)
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2025 10:42:43 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250909-green-oriole-of-speed-85cd6d@lemur> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <92dc8570-84a2-4015-9c7a-6e7da784869a@kernel.dk>
On Tue, Sep 09, 2025 at 08:35:18AM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
> >> On a global scale, that's quite a number of saved mailing list archive searches.
> >
> > +1 FWIW. I also started slapping the links on all patches in a series,
> > even if we apply with a merge commit. I don't know of a good way with
> > git to "get to the first parent merge" so scanning the history to find
> > the link in the cover letter was annoying me :(
>
> Like I've tried to argue, I find them useful too. But after this whole
> mess of a thread, I killed -l from my scripts. I do think it's a mistake
> and it seems like the only reason to remove them is that Linus expects
> to find something at the end of the link rainbow and is often
> disappointed, and that annoys him enough to rant about it.
>
> I know some folks downstream of me on the io_uring side find them useful
> too, because they've asked me several times to please remember to ensure
> my own self-applied patches have the link as well. For those, I tend to
> pick or add them locally rather than use b4 for it, which is why they've
> never had links.
>
> As far as I can tell, only two things have been established here:
>
> 1) Linus hates the Link tags, except if they have extra information
> 2) Lots of other folks find them useful
>
> and hence we're at a solid deadlock here.
I did suggest that provenance links use the patch.msgid.link subdomain. This
should clearly mark it as the source of the patch and not any other
discussion. I think this is a reasonable compromise that will only mildly
annoy Linus but let subsystems relying on these links continue to use them.
-K
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2025-09-05 19:33 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-09-05 20:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-05 20:47 ` Sasha Levin
2025-09-06 11:27 ` Greg KH
2025-09-06 11:27 ` Greg KH
2025-09-06 11:30 ` Greg KH
2025-09-06 13:51 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-09-06 15:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-06 18:50 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-09-06 19:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-08 9:11 ` Jani Nikula
2025-09-08 11:59 ` Mark Brown
2025-09-08 20:11 ` dan.j.williams
2025-09-09 11:29 ` Mark Brown
2025-09-09 13:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-09-09 14:18 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-09-09 14:35 ` Jens Axboe
2025-09-09 14:42 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev [this message]
2025-09-09 14:48 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-09 14:50 ` Jens Axboe
2025-09-09 15:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2025-09-09 16:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-09 17:08 ` Mark Brown
2025-09-09 17:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-09 17:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-09 18:31 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-09-09 19:36 ` dan.j.williams
2025-09-10 1:12 ` dan.j.williams
2025-09-10 12:19 ` Mark Brown
2025-09-09 17:25 ` dan.j.williams
2025-09-09 17:56 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-09-09 18:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-09 18:13 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-09-09 18:06 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-09 18:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2025-09-09 18:22 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-09 21:05 ` Mark Brown
2025-09-10 1:33 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-09-09 14:44 ` Greg KH
2025-09-09 15:14 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-09 16:32 ` [RFC] b4 dig: Add AI-powered email relationship discovery command Sasha Levin
2025-09-09 17:22 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-09 17:26 ` Jens Axboe
2025-09-09 18:54 ` Sasha Levin
2025-09-10 10:13 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-10 10:55 ` Sasha Levin
2025-09-10 11:29 ` Laurent Pinchart
2025-09-10 13:38 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2025-09-10 14:03 ` Andrew Dona-Couch
2025-09-11 14:48 ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2025-09-11 15:05 ` Sasha Levin
2025-09-11 19:13 ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2025-09-11 19:57 ` Sasha Levin
2025-09-15 11:26 ` Mark Brown
2025-09-15 11:48 ` Sasha Levin
2025-09-15 12:03 ` Mark Brown
2025-09-11 23:24 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
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