From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail.ozlabs.org (gandalf.ozlabs.org [150.107.74.76]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DEE9F129E6E; Tue, 26 Aug 2025 08:25:07 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=150.107.74.76 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1756196715; cv=none; b=SSS1tHWnSt7ypFOJ1SH3gP7Upg258NSUjWU0CtnfNvk02pynyI2ql7pY5ehYyTzNfEh1in4ZCEIe7f3mL3JmfUMOskwBY4OnsyAU0HjsMP0+xJ2sFN5N1sl0uNH9vYfgSHjrXhakVwhpAyuDwjgZ4YIViDpK2oQgz7MWB1nlQhA= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1756196715; c=relaxed/simple; bh=M3lwJYmTuFciCOkfBfpRk1F/UtJ1CMI+s6RqEBtEKls=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XXjeRXMmo8CqrxezR9Tf7aWuIW4rkxNgKnLxmCU6PKSzHuNEkKwT10qM78hZDNnm8G7iM8AnsL/v2uW9r+jKx2S4ZFvlKEBjTZIovCdhnjpT92VvBxknfQXXOcIQ6Oq4Mcb8/yfuhaeQq3VsNjSzDXyLtuXCZuk3HZYPESANyXg= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=canb.auug.org.au; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=canb.auug.org.au; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=canb.auug.org.au header.i=@canb.auug.org.au header.b=f8ZYK8FS; arc=none smtp.client-ip=150.107.74.76 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=canb.auug.org.au Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=canb.auug.org.au Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=canb.auug.org.au header.i=@canb.auug.org.au header.b="f8ZYK8FS" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=canb.auug.org.au; s=202503; t=1756196706; bh=StN559UZpfgPKLYEDGOhWh4BuXWyw9zkeGi3ACermV0=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=f8ZYK8FSVBjxxh2z6c0+vAqSC98YVxAgNC6xFPBNSyRTAoOllM2/B+v3kOWESx/zN 02zalRR0pl9nASJtCXut/5I1oiZhmxk4J/JTPkD+CnGFznzyxnTkH1fMccGtl/jzmh ueJTy7mSA0Hevlnjl5ukqQ8U2ldTEqu5jy0Pu8p15UDDF4893qHuvgvF4Xh0o62ljO EPHaM1NY83xQIM3Ie/7TTF0EorJcEvDFFtvJY+bzph2XWZ3r4EBunxdJfzVqsD6rHY CPCWD6zmLlrkB5SRA8SHDytr8UV56AQuYC6VOO9SW+ri/GHzA4f93sGgbXg0Q8FI29 Tm6i715BMsgtA== Received: from authenticated.ozlabs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mail.ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4cB11W41G9z4x3N; Tue, 26 Aug 2025 18:25:03 +1000 (AEST) Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2025 18:25:02 +1000 From: Stephen Rothwell To: Bagas Sanjaya Cc: Jonathan Corbet , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Linux Documentation , Linux Kernel Workflows , Fox Foster , Federico Vaga , Jonathan =?UTF-8?B?TmV1c2Now6RmZXI=?= , Randy Dunlap Subject: Re: [PATCH] Documentation: management-style: Correct "know" past participle Message-ID: <20250826182502.701a3031@canb.auug.org.au> In-Reply-To: <2a66319f-63f1-408b-8815-89254d68b90b@gmail.com> References: <20250826003437.7695-2-bagasdotme@gmail.com> <87349ed6zj.fsf@trenco.lwn.net> <2a66319f-63f1-408b-8815-89254d68b90b@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: workflows@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/RWNzJ=iQHs.zG2UWsz4wr+g"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 --Sig_/RWNzJ=iQHs.zG2UWsz4wr+g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Bagas, On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 14:40:08 +0700 Bagas Sanjaya wro= te: > > On 8/26/25 11:47, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > >> diff --git a/Documentation/process/management-style.rst b/Documentatio= n/process/management-style.rst > >> index dfbc69bf49d435..1381b253b19ef4 100644 > >> --- a/Documentation/process/management-style.rst > >> +++ b/Documentation/process/management-style.rst > >> @@ -42,7 +42,7 @@ actually true. > >> The name of the game is to **avoid** having to make a decision. In > >> particular, if somebody tells you "choose (a) or (b), we really need= you > >> to decide on this", you're in trouble as a manager. The people you > >> -manage had better know the details better than you, so if they come to > >> +manage had better known the details than you, so if they come to > >> you for a technical decision, you're screwed. You're clearly not =20 > >=20 > > This seems actively wrong ... ? > > =20 >=20 > What I thought on the original wording was that the people (i.e. develope= rs) know the (technical) details better than their manager. > And yeah, "better" was duplicated. One way to make this clearer would be: ... The people you manage should know the details better than you ... --=20 Cheers, Stephen Rothwell --Sig_/RWNzJ=iQHs.zG2UWsz4wr+g Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEENIC96giZ81tWdLgKAVBC80lX0GwFAmitb14ACgkQAVBC80lX 0GzQlAgAk4fasyu9S5xB1rat10mRqQ7EFFwaPdwnQPxRamdj3H+rcFv2vbqzyomx Mh58WeF51VYyEooFX+HSOjPfq4qkryXj36CLrCPj1wW8v6tK53Se62UOs1oXOgvZ 9FmyTZQblnzMBHH3e1H9RS4wbVMpTH+HUF0IHWtL0CD9ehkCK0h1oan4KAWnUMXE g/k6k4wMUR1Zx4ISX9RipZQWl+qZGP43hsCxWtp4FP3Z2c8kPWzelcIl26C8+o6f EJMN1aVI2Eyo7Fq/HNAvjxQeGrn1c6WMOHF1zsjHOtOmBgTIxw9nHO8PqKOE67tV 9vJUbsXr7ms3kik9FY0YqHlm9HHF8w== =M0UH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/RWNzJ=iQHs.zG2UWsz4wr+g--