From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from relay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0011.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F061224F6; Thu, 14 Aug 2025 00:36:02 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=216.40.44.11 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1755131765; cv=none; b=VrRBO1HNNFY05sq2HWxesY37IGDd57lVv/K85KLGOJLBeKZOdOeww3VVveAV+WGaBVvFUul2jtRXnlQC3y3+tDf2QHWbMz5GseViVfuDrRXuDoK8OIH1sA0ezg0tLopXkBkugD9VuRiats9RklL1pORHxYV1VCTNo5/d25LU/Gk= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1755131765; c=relaxed/simple; bh=mpkDnPLbOUx50KpkuUD5mJ/La7GKqG6KmylgOxgVZE4=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SVU17cTFp0z+kw+OW0KKOZoVXusrgz1kfIGAn33PqwusLzm74y6YJBUDc6d/mpQSHPD5MqYbZlCSr+ZEfip+zafyxe3nXbEWA0Nd/afHYYJhxrxIA6X9Xm0WvZSZcF1HAvNOu1AcKWItFpPqo/3n8F3qy+H9udp0gb1/G9SKLf8= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=goodmis.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=goodmis.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=216.40.44.11 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=goodmis.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=goodmis.org Received: from omf10.hostedemail.com (a10.router.float.18 [10.200.18.1]) by unirelay06.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E0141177BA; Thu, 14 Aug 2025 00:36:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [HIDDEN] (Authenticated sender: rostedt@goodmis.org) by omf10.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 479A135; Thu, 14 Aug 2025 00:35:59 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2025 20:36:47 -0400 From: Steven Rostedt To: Sasha Levin Cc: Greg KH , corbet@lwn.net, josh@joshtriplett.org, kees@kernel.org, konstantin@linuxfoundation.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, workflows@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] agents: add unified agent coding assistant configuration Message-ID: <20250813203647.06e49600@gandalf.local.home> In-Reply-To: References: <20250809234008.1540324-1-sashal@kernel.org> <20250809234008.1540324-3-sashal@kernel.org> <2025081040-armchair-although-8bf1@gregkh> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.20.0git84 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: workflows@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Stat-Signature: hdr5whjza6thcyjsgny54ydu1w36ugf8 X-Rspamd-Server: rspamout01 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 479A135 X-Session-Marker: 726F737465647440676F6F646D69732E6F7267 X-Session-ID: U2FsdGVkX19O7s64iK5UKDHNNHvGwMHIV2MRzI8zzrs= X-HE-Tag: 1755131759-651178 X-HE-Meta: U2FsdGVkX18uF7lPn7YRrBQ4FFO7EKwM6F1D5s1BdqTYEZ3qKBnrFUiqEBYUzvbgjR49RePaX0KjrYaXztaJDFpslRykYQikElvg4RYHMcAVTb48TBqioqktFP9UpU/fhyfIk3D1ldfovRLv/GdpYG0uzIfSNV2Tna7ikyx87S8SSivGUVNq/NwvgqJAUee9vcZ/aOaHz9g0eUuQMYBr3uV6StyygwSwmO3N28Lpzb3TvwgL3R0TxjeRCFC15ck3LlSV06s3+/RXA5PaAE6d0xyA0loZSsp5RLmspFOFjRsqdAU73wlW4T3Mg/xT4cZgHBwgHFxRqTri2H1U4GEfbNX0aokimIzG On Sun, 10 Aug 2025 10:22:15 -0400 Sasha Levin wrote: > We don't strictly need this patch. Here are the options I came up with: > > 1. Multiple agent files: agents automatically read our rules, higher > chance of comlpiance, doesn't require user to do anything manually. > > 2. No agents files at all: this means that the user will need to > explicitly trigger an action, otherwise all the tools I've tested it > with will happily ignore the README file even when prompted to do other > actions on the codebase (analyze code/write a patch/etc). > > 3. Only "AGENTS.md" which seems like a few of the tools are trying to > standardize on. We could also use it in the future to add prompt cues > that might not be relevant within the README. 2 or 3 are the only options that seems reasonable. I agree with Greg. I wouldn't want these files adding noise to the main directory for every agent. > > We could also start with most of these files, along with a statement > that they will be removed within 12 months to give the various tools > time to standardize around something. Ideally, in 12 months they will all standardize on AGENTS.md and that's all we will need. Let's not enable them to do their own thing in the mean time. If we add this file, I would suspect it would help encourage the agents to use it. The best "standards" are the ones that are done in collaboration before they are added to a specification ;-) -- Steve