From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from zeniv.linux.org.uk (zeniv.linux.org.uk [62.89.141.173]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B89621DE3AC; Fri, 25 Jul 2025 17:45:40 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=62.89.141.173 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1753465543; cv=none; b=rBVHLkmomI1upgnyV5rTwFqDb2+GLohYzmMOoyiHy1i8YbQqV0JP6NRwb1W/gxTdXK0W5LMh59lEiBnC13UX2prJw97M06Vz6KuWuRsMFjrKHsMrzCXj8Ck36vTst1Bu+kz2V6EW3CmcYWBBWmo66MP/wkxl0kQGOqhPlDGxp+c= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1753465543; c=relaxed/simple; bh=RsPRgmZCOqun/rYWmkkcvg3T55MIka5uyEZQyaWsRkE=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=VJL0yWbraX+wJO96sYDIIzsIipY6xzcILBzrwQ+DFqPKx7F9ZZtyAiSVidm3Z8+XBoTAEzGAPGfBCWWPA/2YPDodVD4QxIjRpJGtlosyEKTt9p5GLKi2RfasncxOhRqZrRDiNSP5Ai3O5Z8i7UnWdk+k6JA/c/Slxc+MlgWkWFc= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=zeniv.linux.org.uk; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=ftp.linux.org.uk; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=linux.org.uk header.i=@linux.org.uk header.b=Z8Dmf4cu; arc=none smtp.client-ip=62.89.141.173 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=zeniv.linux.org.uk Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=ftp.linux.org.uk Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=linux.org.uk header.i=@linux.org.uk header.b="Z8Dmf4cu" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linux.org.uk; s=zeniv-20220401; h=Sender:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=aFcxMrKl/6T2lCcVEBxTm5V2wzGAihXJCOqriV8fm94=; b=Z8Dmf4cumnntEeo5nL2SBVupqO uuRfw4qxLnTOyYnHa1kYFr2LA36AL0Fz4+xjJHgISL3o1xGfykd3Thk+bADxSaQ4A0Lm9W16rmzjY 11klNXhNQAu1s5Ir/3RXTclatNHM2HBO7nSoc09m3AebUtoY3MWIBuuCBgXWyy4xrCoEFV0SIodCi lwMghsM9ry8itRwqKg8xQUUGMCbiwr2N+/KBuJBvacGzjNHwLZjlhkDT3pgt8N+sEPwqpKn2+04ke +I+ThogCsyXD5jyvX2wnWqc0/JvSr9pAJ8RrI3Orb2KGFqj/lvxcHgxnfRn9V5BkKbmeku0MlqB4S xUrLwYJg==; Received: from viro by zeniv.linux.org.uk with local (Exim 4.98.2 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1ufMUA-00000000Ebq-0OON; Fri, 25 Jul 2025 17:45:34 +0000 Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2025 18:45:34 +0100 From: Al Viro To: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" Cc: Laurent Pinchart , Sasha Levin , Kees Cook , Steven Rostedt , Konstantin Ryabitsev , corbet@lwn.net, workflows@vger.kernel.org, josh@joshtriplett.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] docs: submitting-patches: (AI?) Tool disclosure tag Message-ID: <20250725174534.GY2580412@ZenIV> References: <202507241418.34AFD28C@keescook> <20250724194556.105803db@gandalf.local.home> <202507241651.5E9C803C70@keescook> <20250725113702.GD11202@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: workflows@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Sender: Al Viro On Fri, Jul 25, 2025 at 11:49:02AM +0000, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote: > > Except from a copyright point of view. The situation is quite clear for > > deterministic code generation, it's less so for LLMs. > > As long as you'd acknowledged the use of the LLM in all cases, it seems to > me right to say to what degree you use it (i.e. the 1..3) above. > I think even most people worried about copright issues would worry > less if an LLM had just told you about a problem (1) and you fixed it. > (Although obviously IANAL) s/told you about a problem/told you that has triggered some heuristics and might or might not be worth looking into/, really...