From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D7B018AEA; Fri, 22 Nov 2024 17:29:38 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1732296579; cv=none; b=iAr/RlFhg2TTEYns5vZuZbnUt/7HQM0zjqGbCI8La+eZvCj8+GmC98c24mdYvAYzBLFDpmWiQTeuxNkPmWs3/nWj9lYVuWjMjZtyF+wXfnwuqSTW/WUBcjVQaebANp4i0koMzBc0HmGDXry1ljeIDHfxGJKWtsGs/DfD91QlBaw= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1732296579; c=relaxed/simple; bh=KQkPFztCcDV7zdWXKgZKGZBN8iACqDcgshPTqQ6/mtM=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bBJMAf2kQWVzIpxMlEoYmKTZg2sVWlYgGWKSV6cuKIKSlmdthu7r6wV3xIVdS8/aO/j+jtTQCCOcQRna5v2WiyeyIZbyHiXMXGe4VtHMPNE/izqDzi7NF3aXKisEA7mvMBsNBIH3UKkW61X1r4rzhWM1P9eAhKqAdtLJiWPXDsI= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=VEV7aYQs; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="VEV7aYQs" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A5892C4CECE; Fri, 22 Nov 2024 17:29:38 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1732296578; bh=KQkPFztCcDV7zdWXKgZKGZBN8iACqDcgshPTqQ6/mtM=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=VEV7aYQsjkdF7yNiLEGZTq8gM+OuaHI3MaiW3+Uh6B/pxUAbSEPp9PkS4gB7KgXzw ae80qO17LuJPdMtL9vqGj3pWlH+AYyGpH0qV2p61DPKWlPBtSHKIwRs//8Lrm2Luv6 mcN0GpzhK0SYnHzqtGg8B+lASd19mDUIES2j3IilHHElzL9vEsJoYxGi+HZtBjT87A kmziBNwfQQmCo341Td6v3Iguy01GA5ASUFq9l4qv9TlurswPLB0EkZEOrz3z+sDysP utUvrTrBdaVcTYRpgjI+K/CU6GDSQ6hn1A3/H52k2RRY58iGM0d6LCIXeQXBbq8Vlx H1/5jJydzC8OA== Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2024 09:29:37 -0800 From: Jakub Kicinski To: Shuah Cc: Tim.Bird@sony.com, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, workflows@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC v2] MAINTAINERS: split kselftest entry into 'framework' and 'all' Message-ID: <20241122092937.6e63d488@kernel.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20241115200912.1009680-1-kuba@kernel.org> <8192e307-b2b9-4c48-87e2-31073c084218@linuxfoundation.org> <20241118132324.3248c97d@kernel.org> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: workflows@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 22 Nov 2024 07:56:25 -0700 Shuah wrote: > > To me the dissonance between your admission that people don't CC the > > current list (IOW status quo isn't great) and the resistance to change > > is fairly apparent. But it is obviously your call. > My thinking is that people don't seem to CC the one mailing list > we have and adding one more would add to the problem. > > Are there other ways to solve the problem by using prefix like > we do now for subsystem tests: selftests:framework? I think the ideal solution would be to let people subscribe to code paths rather the deal with mailing lists in the first place :( That way we can fix this on the "mailing list backend" rather than expecting people who submit code to do the right thing. Konstantin did some work on auto-CC based on get_maintainer output, whether vger would just fill in the missing CCs, but AFAIR he got stuck on the need to modify headers which would break DKIM. I should mention that lore/lei does support filtering / subscribing to paths etc, but from experience bringing folks into upstream reviews - running lore/lei doesn't work for everyone. I also don't use it because it doesn't support the mbox format of my MUA :( At the current state of affairs, since we can't fix the "receiver" side easily, we have to shift the responsibility on the "sender" side. Hope people run get_maintainer, and have well defined lists..