* [PATCH 06/13] rust: start supporting several compiler versions [not found] <20240701183625.665574-1-ojeda@kernel.org> @ 2024-07-01 18:36 ` Miguel Ojeda [not found] ` <70F3F3DD-AAE6-445A-AC16-C71A06C4EA06@kloenk.dev> 2024-07-01 18:36 ` [PATCH 13/13] docs: rust: quick-start: add section on Linux distributions Miguel Ojeda 1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Miguel Ojeda @ 2024-07-01 18:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Miguel Ojeda, Wedson Almeida Filho, Alex Gaynor Cc: Boqun Feng, Gary Guo, Björn Roy Baron, Benno Lossin, Andreas Hindborg, Alice Ryhl, rust-for-linux, linux-kernel, patches, Jonathan Corbet, workflows, linux-doc It is time to start supporting several Rust compiler versions and thus establish a minimum Rust version. We may still want to upgrade the minimum sometimes in the beginning since there may be important features coming into the language that improve how we write code (e.g. field projections), which may or may not make sense to support conditionally. We will start with a window of two stable releases, and widen it over time. Thus this patch does not move the current minimum (1.78.0), but instead adds support for the recently released 1.79.0. This should already be enough for kernel developers in distributions that provide recent Rust compiler versions routinely, such as Arch Linux, Debian Unstable (outside the freeze period), Fedora Linux, Gentoo Linux (especially the testing channel), Nix (unstable) and openSUSE Tumbleweed. See the documentation patch about it later in this series. In addition, Rust for Linux is now being built-tested in Rust's pre-merge CI [1]. That is, every change that is attempting to land into the Rust compiler is tested against the kernel, and it is merged only if it passes -- thanks to the Rust project for that! Thus, with the pre-merge CI in place, both projects hope to avoid unintentional changes to Rust that break the kernel. This means that, in general, apart from intentional changes on their side (that we will need to workaround conditionally on our side), the upcoming Rust compiler versions should generally work. For instance, currently, the beta (1.80.0) and nightly (1.81.0) branches work as well. Of course, the Rust for Linux CI job in the Rust toolchain may still need to be temporarily disabled for different reasons, but the intention is to help bring Rust for Linux into stable Rust. Link: https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/125209 [1] Signed-off-by: Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@kernel.org> --- Documentation/process/changes.rst | 4 +--- Documentation/rust/quick-start.rst | 9 ++++----- scripts/rust_is_available.sh | 8 -------- scripts/rust_is_available_test.py | 5 ----- 4 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 21 deletions(-) diff --git a/Documentation/process/changes.rst b/Documentation/process/changes.rst index 5685d7bfe4d0..0d0b7120792b 100644 --- a/Documentation/process/changes.rst +++ b/Documentation/process/changes.rst @@ -88,9 +88,7 @@ docs on :ref:`Building Linux with Clang/LLVM <kbuild_llvm>`. Rust (optional) --------------- -A particular version of the Rust toolchain is required. Newer versions may or -may not work because the kernel depends on some unstable Rust features, for -the moment. +A recent version of the Rust compiler is required. Each Rust toolchain comes with several "components", some of which are required (like ``rustc``) and some that are optional. The ``rust-src`` component (which diff --git a/Documentation/rust/quick-start.rst b/Documentation/rust/quick-start.rst index cc3f11e0d441..139a8a536838 100644 --- a/Documentation/rust/quick-start.rst +++ b/Documentation/rust/quick-start.rst @@ -29,16 +29,15 @@ if that is the case. rustc ***** -A particular version of the Rust compiler is required. Newer versions may or -may not work because, for the moment, the kernel depends on some unstable -Rust features. +A recent version of the Rust compiler is required. If ``rustup`` is being used, enter the kernel build directory (or use -``--path=<build-dir>`` argument to the ``set`` sub-command) and run:: +``--path=<build-dir>`` argument to the ``set`` sub-command) and run, +for instance:: rustup override set $(scripts/min-tool-version.sh rustc) -This will configure your working directory to use the correct version of +This will configure your working directory to use the given version of ``rustc`` without affecting your default toolchain. Note that the override applies to the current working directory (and its diff --git a/scripts/rust_is_available.sh b/scripts/rust_is_available.sh index 117018946b57..67cb900124cc 100755 --- a/scripts/rust_is_available.sh +++ b/scripts/rust_is_available.sh @@ -117,14 +117,6 @@ if [ "$rust_compiler_cversion" -lt "$rust_compiler_min_cversion" ]; then echo >&2 "***" exit 1 fi -if [ "$rust_compiler_cversion" -gt "$rust_compiler_min_cversion" ]; then - echo >&2 "***" - echo >&2 "*** Rust compiler '$RUSTC' is too new. This may or may not work." - echo >&2 "*** Your version: $rust_compiler_version" - echo >&2 "*** Expected version: $rust_compiler_min_version" - echo >&2 "***" - warning=1 -fi # Check that the Rust bindings generator is suitable. # diff --git a/scripts/rust_is_available_test.py b/scripts/rust_is_available_test.py index 57613fe5ed75..a255f79aafc2 100755 --- a/scripts/rust_is_available_test.py +++ b/scripts/rust_is_available_test.py @@ -193,11 +193,6 @@ else: result = self.run_script(self.Expected.FAILURE, { "RUSTC": rustc }) self.assertIn(f"Rust compiler '{rustc}' is too old.", result.stderr) - def test_rustc_new_version(self): - rustc = self.generate_rustc("rustc 1.999.0 (a8314ef7d 2099-06-27)") - result = self.run_script(self.Expected.SUCCESS_WITH_WARNINGS, { "RUSTC": rustc }) - self.assertIn(f"Rust compiler '{rustc}' is too new. This may or may not work.", result.stderr) - def test_bindgen_nonexecutable(self): result = self.run_script(self.Expected.FAILURE, { "BINDGEN": self.nonexecutable }) self.assertIn(f"Running '{self.nonexecutable}' to check the Rust bindings generator version failed with", result.stderr) -- 2.45.2 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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* Re: [PATCH 06/13] rust: start supporting several compiler versions [not found] ` <70F3F3DD-AAE6-445A-AC16-C71A06C4EA06@kloenk.dev> @ 2024-07-04 15:26 ` Miguel Ojeda 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Miguel Ojeda @ 2024-07-04 15:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Finn Behrens Cc: Miguel Ojeda, Wedson Almeida Filho, Alex Gaynor, Boqun Feng, Gary Guo, Björn Roy Baron, Benno Lossin, Andreas Hindborg, Alice Ryhl, rust-for-linux, linux-kernel, patches, Jonathan Corbet, workflows, linux-doc On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 4:45 PM Finn Behrens <me@kloenk.dev> wrote: > > One idea below, but fine with or without it. > > Reviewed-by: Finn Behrens <me@kloenk.dev> Thanks Finn! > Would it make sense to not advise the min version but the “max” or just latest stable version? Min version should work as well latest could potentially be a bit more optimised if both work either way? Yeah, that is a good idea -- we could just say `stable` there. In fact, it makes more sense, because this is using `rustup`, i.e. the Rust-provided binaries, and the Rust project only supports the latest version (so far -- there are proposals about LTSs there). Cheers, Miguel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* [PATCH 13/13] docs: rust: quick-start: add section on Linux distributions [not found] <20240701183625.665574-1-ojeda@kernel.org> 2024-07-01 18:36 ` [PATCH 06/13] rust: start supporting several compiler versions Miguel Ojeda @ 2024-07-01 18:36 ` Miguel Ojeda 2024-07-05 6:19 ` Andrea Righi 1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Miguel Ojeda @ 2024-07-01 18:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Miguel Ojeda, Wedson Almeida Filho, Alex Gaynor Cc: Boqun Feng, Gary Guo, Björn Roy Baron, Benno Lossin, Andreas Hindborg, Alice Ryhl, rust-for-linux, linux-kernel, patches, Jan Alexander Steffens, Johannes Löthberg, Fabian Grünbichler, Josh Stone, Randy Barlow, Anna Figueiredo Gomes, Matoro Mahri, Ryan Scheel, figsoda, Jörg Thalheim, Theodore Ni, Winter, William Brown, Xiaoguang Wang, Andrea Righi, Zixing Liu, Jonathan Corbet, workflows, linux-doc Now that we are starting to support several Rust compiler and `bindgen` versions, there is a good chance some Linux distributions work out of the box. Thus, provide some instructions on how to set the toolchain up for a few major Linux distributions. This simplifies the setup users need to build the kernel. In addition, add an introduction to the document so that it is easier to understand its structure. We may want to reorganize it or split it in the future, but I wanted to focus this commit on the new information added about each particular distribution. Finally, remove the `rustup`'s components mention in `changes.rst` since users do not need it if they install the toolchain via the distributions (and anyway it was too detailed for that main document). Cc: Jan Alexander Steffens <heftig@archlinux.org> Cc: Johannes Löthberg <johannes@kyriasis.com> Cc: Fabian Grünbichler <debian@fabian.gruenbichler.email> Cc: Josh Stone <jistone@redhat.com> Cc: Randy Barlow <randy@electronsweatshop.com> Cc: Anna (navi) Figueiredo Gomes <navi@vlhl.dev> Cc: Matoro Mahri <matoro_gentoo@matoro.tk> Cc: Ryan Scheel <ryan.havvy@gmail.com> Cc: figsoda <figsoda@pm.me> Cc: Jörg Thalheim <joerg@thalheim.io> Cc: Theodore Ni <43ngvg@masqt.com> Cc: Winter <nixos@winter.cafe> Cc: William Brown <wbrown@suse.de> Cc: Xiaoguang Wang <xiaoguang.wang@suse.com> Cc: Andrea Righi <andrea.righi@canonical.com> Cc: Zixing Liu <zixing.liu@canonical.com> Signed-off-by: Miguel Ojeda <ojeda@kernel.org> --- Note that openSUSE Tumbleweed is adding the Rust standard library source code, `rustfmt` and Clippy, so we may be able to drop that small note in their section in a few days (possibly before this gets applied) -- thanks William! Documentation/process/changes.rst | 5 -- Documentation/rust/quick-start.rst | 83 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-- 2 files changed, 78 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-) diff --git a/Documentation/process/changes.rst b/Documentation/process/changes.rst index 0d0b7120792b..0ce96ae2588c 100644 --- a/Documentation/process/changes.rst +++ b/Documentation/process/changes.rst @@ -90,11 +90,6 @@ Rust (optional) A recent version of the Rust compiler is required. -Each Rust toolchain comes with several "components", some of which are required -(like ``rustc``) and some that are optional. The ``rust-src`` component (which -is optional) needs to be installed to build the kernel. Other components are -useful for developing. - Please see Documentation/rust/quick-start.rst for instructions on how to satisfy the build requirements of Rust support. In particular, the ``Makefile`` target ``rustavailable`` is useful to check why the Rust toolchain may not diff --git a/Documentation/rust/quick-start.rst b/Documentation/rust/quick-start.rst index f624b913ff89..65a34a9a7089 100644 --- a/Documentation/rust/quick-start.rst +++ b/Documentation/rust/quick-start.rst @@ -5,17 +5,90 @@ Quick Start This document describes how to get started with kernel development in Rust. +There are a few ways to install a Rust toolchain needed for kernel development. +A simple way is to use the packages from your Linux distribution if they are +suitable -- the first section below explains this approach. An advantage of this +approach is that, typically, the distribution will match the LLVM used by Rust +and Clang. + +Alternatively, the next two "Requirements" sections explain each component and +how to install them through ``rustup``, the standalone installers from Rust +and/or building them. + +The rest of the document explains other aspects on how to get started. + + +Distributions +------------- + +Arch Linux +********** + +Arch Linux provides recent Rust releases and thus it should generally work out +of the box, e.g.:: + + pacman -S rust rust-src rust-bindgen + + +Debian +****** + +Debian Unstable (Sid), outside of the freeze period, provides recent Rust +release and thus it should generally work out of the box, e.g.:: + + apt install rustc rust-src bindgen rustfmt rust-clippy + + +Fedora Linux +************ + +Fedora Linux provides recent Rust releases and thus it should generally work out +of the box, e.g.:: + + dnf install rust rust-src bindgen-cli rustfmt clippy + + +Gentoo Linux +************ + +Gentoo Linux (and especially the testing branch) provides recent Rust releases +and thus it should generally work out of the box, e.g.:: + + USE='rust-src rustfmt clippy' emerge dev-lang/rust dev-util/bindgen + +``LIBCLANG_PATH`` may need to be set. + + +Nix +*** + +Nix (unstable channel) provides recent Rust releases and thus it should +generally work out of the box, e.g.:: + + { pkgs ? import <nixpkgs> {} }: + pkgs.mkShell { + nativeBuildInputs = with pkgs; [ rustc rust-bindgen rustfmt clippy ]; + RUST_LIB_SRC = "${pkgs.rust.packages.stable.rustPlatform.rustLibSrc}"; + } + + +openSUSE +******** + +openSUSE Tumbleweed provides recent Rust releases and thus it should generally +work out of the box, e.g.:: + + zypper install rust rust-bindgen clang + +The Rust standard library source code, ``rustfmt`` and Clippy are not packaged +(yet), thus currently they need to be installed separately. + Requirements: Building ---------------------- This section explains how to fetch the tools needed for building. -Some of these requirements might be available from Linux distributions -under names like ``rustc``, ``rust-src``, ``rust-bindgen``, etc. However, -at the time of writing, they are likely not to be recent enough unless -the distribution tracks the latest releases. - To easily check whether the requirements are met, the following target can be used:: -- 2.45.2 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 13/13] docs: rust: quick-start: add section on Linux distributions 2024-07-01 18:36 ` [PATCH 13/13] docs: rust: quick-start: add section on Linux distributions Miguel Ojeda @ 2024-07-05 6:19 ` Andrea Righi 2024-07-05 6:46 ` Fabian Grünbichler 2024-07-05 10:50 ` Miguel Ojeda 0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Andrea Righi @ 2024-07-05 6:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Miguel Ojeda Cc: Wedson Almeida Filho, Alex Gaynor, Boqun Feng, Gary Guo, Björn Roy Baron, Benno Lossin, Andreas Hindborg, Alice Ryhl, rust-for-linux, linux-kernel, patches, Jan Alexander Steffens, Johannes Löthberg, Fabian Grünbichler, Josh Stone, Randy Barlow, Anna Figueiredo Gomes, Matoro Mahri, Ryan Scheel, figsoda, Jörg Thalheim, Theodore Ni, Winter, William Brown, Xiaoguang Wang, Zixing Liu, Jonathan Corbet, workflows, linux-doc On Mon, Jul 01, 2024 at 08:36:23PM +0200, Miguel Ojeda wrote: .. > +Debian > +****** > + > +Debian Unstable (Sid), outside of the freeze period, provides recent Rust > +release and thus it should generally work out of the box, e.g.:: > + > + apt install rustc rust-src bindgen rustfmt rust-clippy This implicitly covers Ubuntu, since packages are sync'ed with Debian. In addition to that Ubuntu also provides versioned packages (such as rustc-1.74, bindgen-0.65, etc.), so in case of special requirements (e.g., older kernels) users should be able to install the required version(s) using the packages provided by the distro. Maybe it's worth mentioning as a little note, so that users are aware of these extra packages. Thanks, -Andrea ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 13/13] docs: rust: quick-start: add section on Linux distributions 2024-07-05 6:19 ` Andrea Righi @ 2024-07-05 6:46 ` Fabian Grünbichler 2024-07-05 12:52 ` Miguel Ojeda 2024-07-05 10:50 ` Miguel Ojeda 1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Fabian Grünbichler @ 2024-07-05 6:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andrea Righi Cc: Miguel Ojeda, Wedson Almeida Filho, Alex Gaynor, Boqun Feng, Gary Guo, Björn Roy Baron, Benno Lossin, Andreas Hindborg, Alice Ryhl, rust-for-linux, linux-kernel, patches, Jan Alexander Steffens, Johannes Löthberg, Fabian Grünbichler, Josh Stone, Randy Barlow, Anna Figueiredo Gomes, Matoro Mahri, Ryan Scheel, figsoda, Jörg Thalheim, Theodore Ni, Winter, William Brown, Xiaoguang Wang, Zixing Liu, Jonathan Corbet, workflows, linux-doc On Fri, Jul 05, 2024 at 08:19:01AM GMT, Andrea Righi wrote: > On Mon, Jul 01, 2024 at 08:36:23PM +0200, Miguel Ojeda wrote: > .. > > +Debian > > +****** > > + > > +Debian Unstable (Sid), outside of the freeze period, provides recent Rust > > +release and thus it should generally work out of the box, e.g.:: > > + > > + apt install rustc rust-src bindgen rustfmt rust-clippy > > This implicitly covers Ubuntu, since packages are sync'ed with Debian. > > In addition to that Ubuntu also provides versioned packages (such as > rustc-1.74, bindgen-0.65, etc.), so in case of special requirements > (e.g., older kernels) users should be able to install the required > version(s) using the packages provided by the distro. Debian (for building firefox and chromium), and uses a -web suffix for that: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/rustc-web https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/rust-cbindgen-web cheers, Fabian ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 13/13] docs: rust: quick-start: add section on Linux distributions 2024-07-05 6:46 ` Fabian Grünbichler @ 2024-07-05 12:52 ` Miguel Ojeda 2024-07-05 13:09 ` Fabian Grünbichler 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Miguel Ojeda @ 2024-07-05 12:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fabian Grünbichler Cc: Andrea Righi, Miguel Ojeda, Wedson Almeida Filho, Alex Gaynor, Boqun Feng, Gary Guo, Björn Roy Baron, Benno Lossin, Andreas Hindborg, Alice Ryhl, rust-for-linux, linux-kernel, patches, Jan Alexander Steffens, Johannes Löthberg, Josh Stone, Randy Barlow, Anna Figueiredo Gomes, Matoro Mahri, Ryan Scheel, figsoda, Jörg Thalheim, Theodore Ni, Winter, William Brown, Xiaoguang Wang, Zixing Liu, Jonathan Corbet, workflows, linux-doc On Fri, Jul 5, 2024 at 8:47 AM Fabian Grünbichler <debian@fabian.gruenbichler.email> wrote: > > Debian (for building firefox and chromium), and uses a -web suffix for > that: > > https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/rustc-web Like for Ubuntu's versioned ones, it seems not recent enough at the moment (i.e. for the current kernel), if I understand correctly. Also, it is a single version, i.e. 1.70, right? We didn't use that particular version in any old kernel version (we moved from 1.68.2 to 1.71.1 in commit 89eed1ab1161 ("rust: upgrade to Rust 1.71.1") back then). So I am not sure how useful it would be, but if you think it will be in the future, perhaps it is worth mentioning. > https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/rust-cbindgen-web We may use `cbindgen` too in the future, but not currently. Is something like `bindgen-web` also available for stable? Thanks! Cheers, Miguel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 13/13] docs: rust: quick-start: add section on Linux distributions 2024-07-05 12:52 ` Miguel Ojeda @ 2024-07-05 13:09 ` Fabian Grünbichler 2024-07-05 13:46 ` Miguel Ojeda 0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Fabian Grünbichler @ 2024-07-05 13:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Miguel Ojeda Cc: Andrea Righi, Miguel Ojeda, Wedson Almeida Filho, Alex Gaynor, Boqun Feng, Gary Guo, Björn Roy Baron, Benno Lossin, Andreas Hindborg, Alice Ryhl, rust-for-linux, linux-kernel, patches, Jan Alexander Steffens, Johannes Löthberg, Josh Stone, Randy Barlow, Anna Figueiredo Gomes, Matoro Mahri, Ryan Scheel, figsoda, Jörg Thalheim, Theodore Ni, Winter, William Brown, Xiaoguang Wang, Zixing Liu, Jonathan Corbet, workflows, linux-doc On Fri, Jul 05, 2024 at 02:52:44PM GMT, Miguel Ojeda wrote: > On Fri, Jul 5, 2024 at 8:47 AM Fabian Grünbichler > <debian@fabian.gruenbichler.email> wrote: > > > > Debian (for building firefox and chromium), and uses a -web suffix for > > that: > > > > https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/rustc-web > > Like for Ubuntu's versioned ones, it seems not recent enough at the > moment (i.e. for the current kernel), if I understand correctly. yep. > Also, it is a single version, i.e. 1.70, right? We didn't use that > particular version in any old kernel version (we moved from 1.68.2 to > 1.71.1 in commit 89eed1ab1161 ("rust: upgrade to Rust 1.71.1") back > then). So I am not sure how useful it would be, but if you think it > will be in the future, perhaps it is worth mentioning. right now it is updated whenever its rdeps (firefox and chromium in stable) need newer versions. once e.g. a stable Debian kernel has similar requirements, I guess the same would apply there. I am not sure upstream kernel development on Debian stable would be enough of an argument to update it (or provide similar packages), but I am not a member of the teams that would make that decision. we currently don't provide multiple versions in parallel (like GCC or LLVM though) besides this special affordance for browsers. I am not sure this would be a good idea either given rustc's release cadence ;) as discussed off-list, -backports might be a better place for providing more recent toolchain packages on Debian stable, and independent from this thread, I have pondered providing them there in the past already. backports would only ship one version as well though, and at most the one in testing (so it would also be affected by the freeze period, just like unstable and testing). > > https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/rust-cbindgen-web > > We may use `cbindgen` too in the future, but not currently. it's used by firefox :) > Is something like `bindgen-web` also available for stable? not yet, but could conceivably be provided once/iff there is a need (see above). ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 13/13] docs: rust: quick-start: add section on Linux distributions 2024-07-05 13:09 ` Fabian Grünbichler @ 2024-07-05 13:46 ` Miguel Ojeda 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Miguel Ojeda @ 2024-07-05 13:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Fabian Grünbichler Cc: Andrea Righi, Miguel Ojeda, Wedson Almeida Filho, Alex Gaynor, Boqun Feng, Gary Guo, Björn Roy Baron, Benno Lossin, Andreas Hindborg, Alice Ryhl, rust-for-linux, linux-kernel, patches, Jan Alexander Steffens, Johannes Löthberg, Josh Stone, Randy Barlow, Anna Figueiredo Gomes, Matoro Mahri, Ryan Scheel, figsoda, Jörg Thalheim, Theodore Ni, Winter, William Brown, Xiaoguang Wang, Zixing Liu, Jonathan Corbet, workflows, linux-doc On Fri, Jul 5, 2024 at 3:09 PM Fabian Grünbichler <debian@fabian.gruenbichler.email> wrote: > > right now it is updated whenever its rdeps (firefox and chromium in > stable) need newer versions. once e.g. a stable Debian kernel has > similar requirements, I guess the same would apply there. I am not sure > upstream kernel development on Debian stable would be enough of an > argument to update it (or provide similar packages), but I am not a > member of the teams that would make that decision. That is reasonable. > as discussed off-list, -backports might be a better place for providing > more recent toolchain packages on Debian stable, and independent from > this thread, I have pondered providing them there in the past already. > backports would only ship one version as well though, and at most the > one in testing (so it would also be affected by the freeze period, just > like unstable and testing). I imagine that could be useful for some (kernel or not) developers on stable, even with the freeze period. Thanks! Cheers, Miguel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 13/13] docs: rust: quick-start: add section on Linux distributions 2024-07-05 6:19 ` Andrea Righi 2024-07-05 6:46 ` Fabian Grünbichler @ 2024-07-05 10:50 ` Miguel Ojeda 2024-07-05 12:59 ` Andrea Righi 1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread From: Miguel Ojeda @ 2024-07-05 10:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andrea Righi Cc: Miguel Ojeda, Wedson Almeida Filho, Alex Gaynor, Boqun Feng, Gary Guo, Björn Roy Baron, Benno Lossin, Andreas Hindborg, Alice Ryhl, rust-for-linux, linux-kernel, patches, Jan Alexander Steffens, Johannes Löthberg, Fabian Grünbichler, Josh Stone, Randy Barlow, Anna Figueiredo Gomes, Matoro Mahri, Ryan Scheel, figsoda, Jörg Thalheim, Theodore Ni, Winter, William Brown, Xiaoguang Wang, Zixing Liu, Jonathan Corbet, workflows, linux-doc On Fri, Jul 5, 2024 at 8:19 AM Andrea Righi <righi.andrea@gmail.com> wrote: > > This implicitly covers Ubuntu, since packages are sync'ed with Debian. Do you mean the names (i.e. command) is the same, or that the newer versions from e.g. Sid can be used in Ubuntu? If the latter, that would be definitely worth adding, yeah -- is that supported / expected to work? > In addition to that Ubuntu also provides versioned packages (such as > rustc-1.74, bindgen-0.65, etc.), so in case of special requirements > (e.g., older kernels) users should be able to install the required > version(s) using the packages provided by the distro. > > Maybe it's worth mentioning as a little note, so that users are aware of > these extra packages. I thought about adding a section for Ubuntu to mention those -- so far I only added the distributions/commands that were likely to work with the versions supported by the kernel, with the idea of expand later as time passes. So I didn't add the versioned ones since the latest is 1.76, so it wouldn't work for the current kernel. But it may be useful to state it nevertheless, since some people may only look at the latest docs. (Or perhaps Ubuntu can add Rust 1.79? :) Thanks! Cheers, Miguel ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 13/13] docs: rust: quick-start: add section on Linux distributions 2024-07-05 10:50 ` Miguel Ojeda @ 2024-07-05 12:59 ` Andrea Righi 0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread From: Andrea Righi @ 2024-07-05 12:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Miguel Ojeda Cc: Miguel Ojeda, Wedson Almeida Filho, Alex Gaynor, Boqun Feng, Gary Guo, Björn Roy Baron, Benno Lossin, Andreas Hindborg, Alice Ryhl, rust-for-linux, linux-kernel, patches, Jan Alexander Steffens, Johannes Löthberg, Fabian Grünbichler, Josh Stone, Randy Barlow, Anna Figueiredo Gomes, Matoro Mahri, Ryan Scheel, figsoda, Jörg Thalheim, Theodore Ni, Winter, William Brown, Xiaoguang Wang, Zixing Liu, Jonathan Corbet, workflows, linux-doc On Fri, Jul 05, 2024 at 12:50:35PM +0200, Miguel Ojeda wrote: > On Fri, Jul 5, 2024 at 8:19 AM Andrea Righi <righi.andrea@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > This implicitly covers Ubuntu, since packages are sync'ed with Debian. > > Do you mean the names (i.e. command) is the same, or that the newer > versions from e.g. Sid can be used in Ubuntu? If the latter, that > would be definitely worth adding, yeah -- is that supported / expected > to work? Command and package names are the same. We may also have different (newer) versions than Sid, but this is up to foundations team. Zixing, what do you think? > > > In addition to that Ubuntu also provides versioned packages (such as > > rustc-1.74, bindgen-0.65, etc.), so in case of special requirements > > (e.g., older kernels) users should be able to install the required > > version(s) using the packages provided by the distro. > > > > Maybe it's worth mentioning as a little note, so that users are aware of > > these extra packages. > > I thought about adding a section for Ubuntu to mention those -- so far > I only added the distributions/commands that were likely to work with > the versions supported by the kernel, with the idea of expand later as > time passes. So I didn't add the versioned ones since the latest is > 1.76, so it wouldn't work for the current kernel. > > But it may be useful to state it nevertheless, since some people may > only look at the latest docs. (Or perhaps Ubuntu can add Rust 1.79? :) Actually, considering that this doc will go in newer kernels, probably it's not worth to mention the *old* packages. About Rust 1.79, calling out Zixing again... :) He may have newer Rust packages in his ppa at some point, but I don't know how much we can consider that ppa "official". -Andrea ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread
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