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From: Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
To: Kanak Shilledar <kanakshilledar111@protonmail.com>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>,
	Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] Documentation: process: Revert "Document suitability of Proton Mail for kernel development"
Date: Thu, 16 May 2024 17:04:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240516-tattered-rival-f443328b5971@spud> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4oW9pC38sSYZn96BW8abMfVpDDCmG4MDHwwmL73o5bP-WyHAutJ5j2GrSU17MCSWOKufViNl4q2zZUmwmN40evP5OK3QiMnUn2hsgWCYhl4=@protonmail.com>

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On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 04:00:10PM +0000, Kanak Shilledar wrote:
> On Thursday, May 16th, 2024 at 9:05 PM, Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org> wrote:
> 
> > From: Conor Dooley conor.dooley@microchip.com
> > 
> > 
> > Revert commit 1d2ed9234c85 ("Documentation: process: Document
> > suitability of Proton Mail for kernel development") as Proton disabled
> > WKD for kernel.org addresses as a result of some interaction with
> > Konstantin on social.kernel.org
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Conor Dooley conor.dooley@microchip.com
> > 
> > ---
> > 
> > I tried to find the stuff on social.korg to provide a link
> > but could not.
> > 
> > CC: kanakshilledar111@protonmail.com
> > CC: Konstantin Ryabitsev konstantin@linuxfoundation.org
> > 
> > CC: Mark Brown broonie@kernel.org
> > 
> > CC: Jonathan Corbet corbet@lwn.net
> > 
> > CC: workflows@vger.kernel.org
> > CC: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
> > CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> > ---
> > Documentation/process/email-clients.rst | 20 --------------------
> > 1 file changed, 20 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/Documentation/process/email-clients.rst b/Documentation/process/email-clients.rst
> > index 471e1f93fa09..fc2c46f3f82d 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/process/email-clients.rst
> > +++ b/Documentation/process/email-clients.rst
> > @@ -350,23 +350,3 @@ although tab2space problem can be solved with external editor.
> > 
> > Another problem is that Gmail will base64-encode any message that has a
> > non-ASCII character. That includes things like European names.
> > -
> > -Proton Mail
> > -***********
> > -
> > -Proton Mail has a "feature" where it looks up keys using Web Key Directory
> > -(WKD) and encrypts mail to any recipients for which it finds a key.
> > -Kernel.org publishes the WKD for all developers who have kernel.org accounts.
> > -As a result, emails sent using Proton Mail to kernel.org addresses will be
> > -encrypted.
> > -Unfortunately, Proton Mail does not provide a mechanism to disable the
> > -automatic encryption, viewing it as a privacy feature.
> > -The automatic encryption feature is also enabled for mail sent via the Proton
> > -Mail Bridge, so this affects all outgoing messages, including patches sent with
> > -`git send-email`.
> > -Encrypted mail adds unnecessary friction, as other developers may not have mail
> > -clients, or tooling, configured for use with encrypted mail and some mail
> > -clients may encrypt responses to encrypted mail for all recipients, including
> > -the mailing lists.
> > -Unless a way to disable this "feature" is introduced, Proton Mail is unsuited
> > -to kernel development.
> 
> Instead of completely removing the Proton Mail section, can we keep the
> mention about the Proton Mail bridge and the third-party hydroxide
> (https://github.com/emersion/hydroxide) bridge.

I think that is probably reasonable, but I think writing the replacement
text is up to someone who actually uses protonmail.

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-16 16:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-16 15:35 Conor Dooley
2024-05-16 16:00 ` Kanak Shilledar
2024-05-16 16:04   ` Conor Dooley [this message]
2024-05-17  9:08     ` Kanak Shilledar
2024-05-30 19:40 ` Jonathan Corbet

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