From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-1.web.codeaurora.org [10.30.226.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8081B1CD2E; Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:04:09 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1713823449; cv=none; b=S0NwuI3zd7UdE0Wpy3homKuItYzWuH2TGVGeoTVdUwCQEA0AEUDo87PG6e5G6ByNzA3QhBwjLODysFvQuJqKdu3hBAUqplmknBHSmoqvXuoAj5MUt/RBFHvDhH+dMOIAkvXz5BS/Cm+qtsjtj0atv/aYidlEsjdzV5kVD1Jp3L4= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1713823449; c=relaxed/simple; bh=jIeuYRRpHR0UWxzlB8ABZBl1/4izL0FuQpPECw+Tdno=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=iYvmG+cYhLMCNgxtFOvGAdJEp9luOSPpItxWZu3wcWxxf5v0jkmCvn0BzUxFnfP/uTwIUdJ+0kI8NkWjnKdM433SV2ReK88a+c9+fbBi4UyUda/cuOahXOcU3z0jFfFWoe2KGniexfO+4gBrtfgEYKzFdSBwqLr/lpUcgqwdjNo= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linuxfoundation.org header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.b=AHQvgUt9; arc=none smtp.client-ip=10.30.226.201 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=linuxfoundation.org header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.b="AHQvgUt9" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1270CC113CC; Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:04:09 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=korg; t=1713823449; bh=jIeuYRRpHR0UWxzlB8ABZBl1/4izL0FuQpPECw+Tdno=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=AHQvgUt9QDnFUQUdFsCTMwf8AOJwkrjlhg7hwLyJHG6poKhV+FnnLqOWOa6wOd6ZC Ve5AZ5EBuwbfXldgULIXkc9T+rlBGrvyq1Kv19rwk4RZNMCwz7QCRj9SXk1K2zJOlg 3VUPI22tJjQUpt/lBPyeuiILf4HDfECG7v+yPHTs= Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2024 00:04:01 +0200 From: Greg KH To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab Cc: Konstantin Ryabitsev , Thorsten Leemhuis , Sasha Levin , helpdesk@kernel.org, "workflows@vger.kernel.org" , LKML Subject: Re: Please create the email alias do-not-apply-to-stable@kernel.org -> /dev/null Message-ID: <2024042311-slinky-musket-fc75@gregkh> References: <20240417-lively-zebu-of-tact-efc8f3@lemur> <2024041734-gleeful-freewill-b24b@gregkh> <2024041830-karaoke-aspirate-df00@gregkh> <655ce2a3-eb04-4ade-999e-23fc5dc5fb3a@leemhuis.info> <20240422-stoic-sawfly-of-protection-db8bfe@lemur> <20240422224637.01bb3058@sal.lan> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: workflows@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20240422224637.01bb3058@sal.lan> On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 10:46:37PM +0100, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > Em Mon, 22 Apr 2024 15:25:18 -0400 > Konstantin Ryabitsev escreveu: > > > On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 05:49:29PM +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > > > @Greg, BTW: should this be stable+noautosel@kernel.org or have a > > > 'vger.' > > > > No vger, just stable+whatever@kernel.org. > > > > > in it, e.g. stable+noautosel@vger.kernel.org? I assume without 'vger.' > > > is fine, just wanted to be sure, as > > > Documentation/process/stable-kernel-rules.rst in all other cases > > > specifies stable@vger.kernel.org, so people are likely to get confused. > > > :-/ #sigh > > > > These serve two different purposes: > > > > stable@kernel.org (goes into devnull) > > stable@vger.kernel.org (actual mailing list) > > > > Confusion happens all the time, unfortunately. > > Yeah, I did already used stable@kernel.org a few times in the > past. > > IMO, the best would be either for stable to also accept it or for > kernel.org mail server to return an error message (only to the > submitter) warning about the invalid address, eventually with a > hint message pointing to the correct value. stable@kernel.org is there to route to /dev/null on purpose so that developers/maintainers who only want their patches to get picked up when they hit Linus's tree, will have happen and not notify anyone else. This is especially good when dealing with security-related things as we have had MANY people accidentally leak patches way too early by having cc: stable@vger.kernel.org in their signed-off-by areas, and forgetting to tell git send-email to suppress cc: when sending them out for internal review. Having that bounce would just be noisy for the developers involved. thanks, greg k-h