From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 552E3ECE58C for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2019 19:24:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363F620684 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2019 19:24:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728371AbfJGTY0 (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Oct 2019 15:24:26 -0400 Received: from dcvr.yhbt.net ([64.71.152.64]:33380 "EHLO dcvr.yhbt.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1728325AbfJGTY0 (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Oct 2019 15:24:26 -0400 Received: from localhost (dcvr.yhbt.net [127.0.0.1]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33C7E1F4BE; Mon, 7 Oct 2019 19:24:26 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2019 19:24:26 +0000 From: Eric Wong To: David Miller Cc: sir@cmpwn.com, nhorman@redhat.com, nhorman@tuxdriver.com, workflows@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: thoughts on a Merge Request based development workflow Message-ID: <20191007192425.enyfsr5m6tonq4b7@dcvr> References: <20191007162000.GC15431@hmswarspite.think-freely.org> <20191007.204302.929569594786844719.davem@davemloft.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20191007.204302.929569594786844719.davem@davemloft.net> Sender: workflows-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: workflows@vger.kernel.org David Miller wrote: > From: "Drew DeVault" > Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2019 12:24:47 -0400 > > > The main issue is that many mail systems are ancient and > > overcomplex, but nothing is stopping anyone from working with > > simpler and more modern mail systems. > > It's the modern ones, like gmail, that are the main problem. > > Google controls such a huge chunk of the present day internet > email traffic that they can effectively steer the medium in any > direction they want, indescriminately, and even eradicate it > slowly over time. The megacorps will try to do that with any modern replacement for SMTP, too :< Maybe something pull-based such as IM2000 can eventually work. *shrug*