From: Nikolai Kondrashov <Nikolai.Kondrashov@redhat.com>
To: David Gow <davidgow@google.com>
Cc: workflows@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>, Andy Whitcroft <apw@canonical.com>,
Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Darrick J . Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
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Veronika Kabatova <vkabatov@redhat.com>,
CKI <cki-project@redhat.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 06/10] MAINTAINERS: Support referencing test docs in V:
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2023 18:54:54 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1a3ad44d-cdc5-4dd0-a734-49b197ad1c37@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABVgOSnW1Yzz-1Zdr-k-qWL25yUDZo+jbhPwNkK7dG-8-WonFg@mail.gmail.com>
On 12/6/23 10:03, David Gow wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 at 02:45, Nikolai Kondrashov
> <Nikolai.Kondrashov@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> Support referencing test suite documentation in the V: entries of
>> MAINTAINERS file. Use the '*<name>' syntax (like C pointer dereference),
>> where '<name>' is a second-level heading in the new
>> Documentation/process/tests.rst file, with the suite's description.
>> This syntax allows distinguishing the references from test commands.
>
> I like the idea here, but wonder whether it makes sense to put all of
> these tests into a single 'tests.rst' file. There's already lots of
> existing documentation scattered around the tree, and while keeping
> all of the testing information in one place does have advantages, I
> think there's a lot to be said for keeping subsystem-specific test
> docs alongside the rest of the documentation for the subsystem itself.
> And it'd be less work, as the docs are already there.
>
> So, could we just make this a path under Documentation/ (possibly with
> an #anchor if we need to reference just one part of a file)?
>
> e.g., something like these, all of which are existing docs:
> V: *Documentation/dev-tools/kasan.rst#Tests
> or
> V: *Dcoumentation/RCU/torture.rst
> or
> V: *Documentation/gpu/automated_testing.rst
> or
> V: *Documentation/process/maintainer-kvm-x86.rst#Testing
>
> (We could even get rid of the '*' and just use 'Documentation/' as a
> prefix, or the executable bit on the file, or similar to distinguish
> these from scripts.)
>
> If we wanted to be very brave, we could extend this further to
> arbitrary webpages, like:
> V: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/fs/xfs/xfstests-dev.git/tree/README
Sure, having a filename (in a specific directory) or a just piece of path in
the source (sub)tree would work too. The idea of single file was mostly to
make it easier to access a *catalog* of all tests in a single file with small
bits of introductory documentation, pointing to the more detailed
documentation (wherever you prefer it to be) from there.
URLs would work as well for pointing to the docs, but they become somewhat
more cumbersome and error-prone for use in Tested-with: tags (if we would like
them), just because of their length and complexity. If we won't care for that,
it's not a problem.
However, overall, I would be cautious multiplying the ways tests can be
specified in V: entries (and Tested-with: tags), as that could quickly become
unwieldy and confusing for humans, who are expected to be interpreting and
writing them. Especially if the syntax could potentially be ambiguous.
Nick
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-12-06 16:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-11-15 17:43 [RFC PATCH 0/3] MAINTAINERS: Introduce V: field for required tests Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-11-15 17:43 ` [PATCH 1/3] " Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-11-15 18:31 ` Joe Perches
2023-11-15 20:01 ` Mark Brown
2023-11-16 12:00 ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-11-15 20:14 ` Mark Brown
2023-11-16 12:09 ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-11-15 20:38 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2023-11-16 12:14 ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-11-16 13:26 ` Mark Brown
2023-11-16 13:52 ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-11-20 12:40 ` Gustavo Padovan
2023-11-20 13:31 ` Mark Brown
2023-11-22 17:41 ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-11-16 13:20 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2023-11-16 13:41 ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-11-16 13:43 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2023-11-16 13:59 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-11-16 14:21 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-11-20 13:30 ` Ricardo Cañuelo
2023-11-20 20:51 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-11-20 22:27 ` Mark Brown
2023-11-21 6:04 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-11-21 10:37 ` David Gow
2023-11-21 13:27 ` Mark Brown
2023-11-22 16:16 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-11-21 18:24 ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-11-21 18:02 ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-11-21 10:36 ` David Gow
2023-11-21 20:48 ` Mark Brown
2023-11-22 17:19 ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-11-22 1:08 ` kernel test robot
2023-11-15 17:43 ` [PATCH 2/3] MAINTAINERS: Require kvm-xfstests smoke for ext4 Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-11-15 18:58 ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-11-16 16:33 ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-11-17 7:09 ` Chandan Babu R
2023-11-19 22:54 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-11-22 14:44 ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-11-22 16:17 ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-11-22 17:44 ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-11-22 20:51 ` Dave Chinner
2023-11-15 17:43 ` [PATCH 3/3] MAINTAINERS: Require kunit core tests for framework changes Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-11-20 18:48 ` Daniel Latypov
2023-11-22 17:38 ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-12-05 18:02 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/10] MAINTAINERS: Introduce V: entry for tests Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-12-05 18:02 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/10] get_maintainer: Survive querying missing files Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-12-05 18:55 ` Joe Perches
2023-12-06 16:16 ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2024-01-31 13:55 ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-12-05 18:02 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/10] MAINTAINERS: Introduce V: entry for tests Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-12-05 18:58 ` Joe Perches
2023-12-06 16:21 ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-12-06 8:12 ` David Gow
2023-12-06 16:23 ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-12-06 16:38 ` Joe Perches
2023-12-06 16:57 ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-12-05 18:02 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/10] MAINTAINERS: Propose kunit core tests for framework changes Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-12-05 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/10] docs: submitting-patches: Introduce Tested-with: Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-12-05 18:59 ` Jonathan Corbet
2023-12-05 19:07 ` Joe Perches
2023-12-06 10:07 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2023-12-06 16:46 ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-12-06 16:31 ` Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-12-05 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/10] checkpatch: Propose tests to execute Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-12-05 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/10] MAINTAINERS: Support referencing test docs in V: Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-12-06 8:03 ` David Gow
2023-12-06 16:54 ` Nikolai Kondrashov [this message]
2023-12-05 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/10] MAINTAINERS: Propose kvm-xfstests smoke for ext4 Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-12-05 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/10] docs: tests: Document kunit in general Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-12-05 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/10] MAINTAINERS: Propose kunit tests for regmap Nikolai Kondrashov
2023-12-05 18:03 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/10] MAINTAINERS: Add proposal strength to V: entries Nikolai Kondrashov
2024-01-08 10:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/10] MAINTAINERS: Introduce V: entry for tests Nikolai Kondrashov
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