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Fri, 12 Jul 2024 08:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.128] ([38.175.170.29]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 8926c6da1cb9f-4c0b1af8229sm2481237173.7.2024.07.12.08.42.07 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 12 Jul 2024 08:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1a30aea2-e8e4-487d-81e4-dda5c1e8665e@linuxfoundation.org> Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2024 09:42:07 -0600 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: workflows@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [PATCH] docs: maintainer: discourage taking conversations off-list To: Mark Brown , Jakub Kicinski Cc: corbet@lwn.net, workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Shuah Khan References: <20240712144903.392284-1-kuba@kernel.org> <7570937c-ead6-40bc-b17f-4ade34a2acf6@sirena.org.uk> Content-Language: en-US From: Shuah Khan In-Reply-To: <7570937c-ead6-40bc-b17f-4ade34a2acf6@sirena.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7/12/24 09:25, Mark Brown wrote: > On Fri, Jul 12, 2024 at 07:49:03AM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote: > >> +Open development >> +---------------- >> + >> +Discussions about user reported issues, and development of new code >> +should be conducted in a manner typical for the larger subsystem. >> +It is common for development within a single company to be conducted >> +behind closed doors. However, maintainers must not redirect discussions >> +and development related to the upstream code from the upstream mailing lists >> +to closed forums or private conversations. Reasonable exceptions to this >> +guidance include discussions about security related issues. > > Reviewed-by: Mark Brown > > I do think it's fine for people to have open places like github as an > option as well, so long as they're optional for contributors and things > pass through the lists in a normal fashion at some point. Directing > people towards existing relevant discussions/reviews can work well. The > main issues are taking things out of all visibility and blocking > contributors. +1 It is important to point out the prior open conversations if any that took place when patches go through reviews on kernel mailing lists. This is the practice for the most part for work stemming from discussions at conferences such as LPC. Reviewed-by: Shuah Khan thanks, -- Shuah