From: Yosry Ahmed <yosry.ahmed@linux.dev>
To: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>
Cc: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>, Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Brian Geffon <bgeffon@google.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] zsmalloc: chain-length configuration should consider other metrics
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2026 08:01:20 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <yxpn4gan74uryy6huzulsqvqvbsqiehdqe6lu7m3hjf3tjjdop@a6cifoycstso> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <utnvn4oupcmohosp6d3qti54qmdppg2xfw622dq6zz7t66a6ma@2pentzdw3zgk>
On Thu, Jan 08, 2026 at 04:37:11PM +0900, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> On (26/01/07 17:12), Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 07, 2026 at 02:43:42PM +0900, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> > > On (26/01/07 05:39), Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Jan 06, 2026 at 04:24:45PM +0000, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> > > [..]
> > > > > Adding native SG support to LZO simply means removing the memcpy that
> > > > > scomp would otherwise have to do.
> > > >
> > > > Yeah the effort to add native support to compressors can be done
> > > > separately. For zswap, I think the most common compressors are
> > > > actually zstd and LZ4.
> > >
> > > I think it's the same for chromeos: lz4 (primary) and zstd
> > > (secondary/recompression). zstd looks very complicated,
> > > not sure if we really want to diverge its codebase from
> > > the upstream (meta github repo).
> >
> > I think there's value in using SG lists even if we do not have support
> > for lz4 or zstd. We'll remove the memcpy() logic in zsmalloc and the
> > kmap handling memcpy() in zswap if we just pass SG lists from zsmalloc
> > to zswap/zram.
>
> Yeah I agree, I guess I can cook something up.
>
> For transition period we can have:
> - current "memcpy" API
> for zswap
>
> - SG-list API
>
> I can vmap either on the zram side or have new zsmalloc vmap API
> (alongside the memcpy and SG-list APIs).
>
> Once crypto API supports SG-list and algorithms tunables I can
> switch zram over from zcomp to crypto API and remove memcpy and
> vmap APIs from zsmalloc.
IIUC based on Herbert's previous response, crypto and scomp already
support passing in a discontiguous SG-list. So for zswap, if zsmalloc
returns an SG-list, it will just be passed as-is to the crypto API.
If zram can also use the SG-list, then we can completely drop the
memcpy() logic from zsmalloc.
Herbert, please correct me if I am wrong.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-08 8:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-01 1:38 [RFC PATCH 0/2] zsmalloc: size-classes chain-length tunings Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-01-01 1:38 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] zsmalloc: drop hard limit on the number of size classes Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-01-01 1:38 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] zsmalloc: chain-length configuration should consider other metrics Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-01-02 18:29 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-01-05 1:42 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-01-05 7:23 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-01-05 16:01 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-01-06 4:10 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-01-05 15:58 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-01-06 4:20 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-01-06 4:22 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-01-06 5:08 ` Herbert Xu
2026-01-06 16:24 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-01-07 5:25 ` Herbert Xu
2026-01-07 5:39 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-01-07 5:42 ` Herbert Xu
2026-01-07 5:43 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-01-07 17:12 ` Yosry Ahmed
2026-01-08 7:37 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-01-08 8:01 ` Yosry Ahmed [this message]
2026-01-08 8:05 ` Herbert Xu
2026-01-09 3:29 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2026-01-06 9:47 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
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