From: "Juan J. Quintela" <quintela@fi.udc.es>
To: Timur Tabi <ttabi@interactivesi.com>
Cc: Linux MM mailing list <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: 2.4: why is NR_GFPINDEX so large?
Date: 21 Jun 2000 23:24:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <yttvgz2k9s9.fsf@serpe.mitica> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Timur Tabi's message of "Wed, 21 Jun 2000 15:59:51 -0500"
>>>>> "timur" == Timur Tabi <ttabi@interactivesi.com> writes:
timur> ** Reply to message from Kanoj Sarcar <kanoj@google.engr.sgi.com> on Wed, 21
timur> Jun 2000 13:49:56 -0700 (PDT)
>> Yes, this is saying that although we waste physical memory (which few
>> people care about any more), some of the unused space is never cached,
>> since it is not accessed (although hardware processor prefetches might
>> change this assumption a little bit). So, valuable cache space is not
>> wasted that can be used to hold data/code that is actually used.
>>
>> What I was warning you about is that if you shrink the array to the
>> exact size, there might be other data that comes on the same cacheline,
>> which might cause all kinds of interesting behavior (I think they call
>> this false cache sharing or some such thing).
timur> Ok, I understand your explanation, but I have a hard time seeing how false
timur> cache sharing can be a bad thing.
timur> If the cache sucks up a bunch of zeros that are never used, that's definitely
timur> wasted cache space. How can that be any better than sucking up some real data
timur> that can be used?
You put there a variable that is written a lot of times, then the
cache line with that array will be doing ping pong from one CPU to the
other. Now, like it is a read only data, it can be in both caches at
the same time. If you have a lot of CPUs problem become worst.
Later, Juan.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2000-06-21 21:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2000-06-21 19:48 Timur Tabi
2000-06-21 19:56 ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-06-21 19:57 ` Timur Tabi
2000-06-21 20:23 ` Puppetmaster
2000-06-21 20:37 ` Timur Tabi
2000-06-21 20:37 ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-06-21 20:41 ` Timur Tabi
2000-06-21 20:49 ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-06-21 20:59 ` Timur Tabi
2000-06-21 21:10 ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-06-21 21:28 ` Timur Tabi
2000-06-21 21:41 ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-06-21 21:43 ` Timur Tabi
2000-06-22 19:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-06-22 19:51 ` Jamie Lokier
2000-06-23 17:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-06-23 17:52 ` Jamie Lokier
2000-06-23 18:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-06-23 18:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-06-22 20:22 ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-06-23 18:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-06-21 21:22 ` James Manning
2000-06-21 21:24 ` Juan J. Quintela [this message]
2000-06-21 21:15 frankeh
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