From: Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>
To: "Thomas Hellström" <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com>,
John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org,
Ralph Campbell <rcampbell@nvidia.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@mellanox.com>,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, stable@vger.kernel.org,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/hmm: Fix a hmm_range_fault() livelock / starvation problem
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2026 21:25:49 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ymg5yawktqtw7vfgt77iciqzxhjlsnqrwnjx3xmkflbjqbmq5s@jcxzcymqq2af> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f48e3d818c6e20d6ea7a7fbd6b1741f25df17a78.camel@linux.intel.com>
On 2026-02-02 at 20:30 +1100, Thomas Hellström <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com> wrote...
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 2026-02-02 at 11:10 +1100, Alistair Popple wrote:
> > On 2026-02-02 at 08:07 +1100, Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com>
> > wrote...
> > > On Sun, Feb 01, 2026 at 12:48:33PM -0800, John Hubbard wrote:
> > > > On 2/1/26 11:24 AM, Matthew Brost wrote:
> > > > > On Sat, Jan 31, 2026 at 01:42:20PM -0800, John Hubbard wrote:
> > > > > > On 1/31/26 11:00 AM, Matthew Brost wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 31, 2026 at 01:57:21PM +0100, Thomas Hellström
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Fri, 2026-01-30 at 19:01 -0800, John Hubbard wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On 1/30/26 10:00 AM, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 30 Jan 2026 15:45:29 +0100 Thomas Hellström
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > I’m not convinced the folio refcount has any bearing if we
> > > > > > > can take a
> > > > > > > sleeping lock in do_swap_page, but perhaps I’m missing
> > > > > > > something.
> >
> > I think the point of the trylock vs. lock is that if you can't
> > immediately
> > lock the page then it's an indication the page is undergoing a
> > migration.
> > In other words there's no point waiting for the lock and then trying
> > to call
> > migrate_to_ram() as the page will have already moved by the time you
> > acquire
> > the lock. Of course that just means you spin faulting until the page
> > finally
> > migrates.
> >
> > If I'm understanding the problem it sounds like we just want to sleep
> > until the
> > migration is complete, ie. same as the migration entry path. We don't
> > have a
> > device_private_entry_wait() function, but I don't think we need one,
> > see below.
> >
> > > > > diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
> > > > > index da360a6eb8a4..1e7ccc4a1a6c 100644
> > > > > --- a/mm/memory.c
> > > > > +++ b/mm/memory.c
> > > > > @@ -4652,6 +4652,8 @@ vm_fault_t do_swap_page(struct vm_fault
> > > > > *vmf)
> > > > > vmf->page = softleaf_to_page(entry);
> > > > > ret =
> > > > > remove_device_exclusive_entry(vmf);
> > > > > } else if (softleaf_is_device_private(entry))
> > > > > {
> > > > > + struct dev_pagemap *pgmap;
> > > > > +
> > > > > if (vmf->flags & FAULT_FLAG_VMA_LOCK)
> > > > > {
> > > > > /*
> > > > > * migrate_to_ram is not yet
> > > > > ready to operate
> > > > > @@ -4670,21 +4672,15 @@ vm_fault_t do_swap_page(struct vm_fault
> > > > > *vmf)
> > > > > vmf-
> > > > > >orig_pte)))
> > > > > goto unlock;
> > > > >
> > > > > - /*
> > > > > - * Get a page reference while we know
> > > > > the page can't be
> > > > > - * freed.
> > > > > - */
> > > > > - if (trylock_page(vmf->page)) {
> > > > > - struct dev_pagemap *pgmap;
> > > > > -
> > > > > - get_page(vmf->page);
> >
> > At this point we:
> > 1. Know the page needs to migrate
> > 2. Have the page locked
> > 3. Have a reference on the page
> > 4. Have the PTL locked
> >
> > Or in other words we have everything we need to install a migration
> > entry,
> > so why not just do that? This thread would then proceed into
> > migrate_to_ram()
> > having already done migrate_vma_collect_pmd() for the faulting page
> > and any
> > other threads would just sleep in the wait on migration entry path
> > until the
> > migration is complete, avoiding the livelock problem the trylock was
> > introduced
> > for in 1afaeb8293c9a.
> >
> > - Alistair
> >
> > > >
>
> There will always be a small time between when the page is locked and
> when we can install a migration entry. If the page only has a single
> mapcount, then the PTL lock is held during this time so the issue does
> not occur. But for multiple map-counts we need to release the PTL lock
> in migration to run try_to_migrate(), and before that, the migrate code
> is running lru_add_drain_all() and gets stuck.
Oh right, my solution would be fine for the single mapping case but I hadn't
fully thought through the implications of other threads accessing this for
multiple map-counts. Agree it doesn't solve anything there (the rest of the
threads would still spin on the trylock).
Still we could use a similar solution for waiting on device-private entries as
we do for migration entries. Instead of spinning on the trylock (ie. PG_locked)
we could just wait on it to become unlocked if it's already locked. Would
something like the below completely untested code work? (obviously this is a bit
of hack, to do it properly you'd want to do more than just remove the check from
migration_entry_wait)
---
diff --git a/mm/memory.c b/mm/memory.c
index 2a55edc48a65..3e5e205ee279 100644
--- a/mm/memory.c
+++ b/mm/memory.c
@@ -4678,10 +4678,10 @@ vm_fault_t do_swap_page(struct vm_fault *vmf)
pte_unmap_unlock(vmf->pte, vmf->ptl);
pgmap = page_pgmap(vmf->page);
ret = pgmap->ops->migrate_to_ram(vmf);
- unlock_page(vmf->page);
put_page(vmf->page);
} else {
- pte_unmap_unlock(vmf->pte, vmf->ptl);
+ migration_entry_wait(vma->vm_mm, vmf->pmd,
+ vmf->address);
}
} else if (softleaf_is_hwpoison(entry)) {
ret = VM_FAULT_HWPOISON;
diff --git a/mm/migrate.c b/mm/migrate.c
index 5169f9717f60..b676daf0f4e8 100644
--- a/mm/migrate.c
+++ b/mm/migrate.c
@@ -496,8 +496,6 @@ void migration_entry_wait(struct mm_struct *mm, pmd_t *pmd,
goto out;
entry = softleaf_from_pte(pte);
- if (!softleaf_is_migration(entry))
- goto out;
migration_entry_wait_on_locked(entry, ptl);
return;
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-02 10:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-30 14:45 Thomas Hellström
2026-01-30 18:00 ` Andrew Morton
2026-01-30 19:56 ` Thomas Hellström
2026-01-30 20:38 ` Andrew Morton
2026-01-30 21:01 ` Matthew Brost
2026-01-30 21:08 ` Andrew Morton
2026-01-31 0:59 ` Matthew Brost
2026-01-31 3:01 ` John Hubbard
2026-01-31 12:57 ` Thomas Hellström
2026-01-31 19:00 ` Matthew Brost
2026-01-31 21:42 ` John Hubbard
2026-02-01 19:24 ` Matthew Brost
2026-02-01 20:48 ` John Hubbard
2026-02-01 21:07 ` Matthew Brost
2026-02-02 0:10 ` Alistair Popple
2026-02-02 9:30 ` Thomas Hellström
2026-02-02 10:25 ` Alistair Popple [this message]
2026-02-02 10:41 ` Thomas Hellström
2026-02-02 11:22 ` Alistair Popple
2026-02-02 11:44 ` Thomas Hellström
2026-02-02 12:26 ` Alistair Popple
2026-02-02 14:07 ` Thomas Hellström
2026-02-02 23:13 ` Alistair Popple
2026-02-02 9:13 ` Thomas Hellström
2026-02-02 10:34 ` Alistair Popple
2026-02-02 10:51 ` Thomas Hellström
2026-02-02 11:28 ` Alistair Popple
2026-02-02 22:28 ` John Hubbard
2026-02-03 9:31 ` Thomas Hellström
2026-02-04 1:13 ` pincount vs refcount: " John Hubbard
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