Re: [RFC PATCH 00/16] mm/madvise: batch tlb flushes for MADV_DONTNEED and MADV_FREE

[Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>]

On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 07:49:50PM +0000, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 11:46:31AM -0800, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 08:19:41PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > > On 05.03.25 19:56, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 10:15:55AM -0800, SeongJae Park wrote:
> > > > > For MADV_DONTNEED[_LOCKED] or MADV_FREE madvise requests, tlb flushes
> > > > > can happen for each vma of the given address ranges.  Because such tlb
> > > > > flushes are for address ranges of same process, doing those in a batch
> > > > > is more efficient while still being safe.  Modify madvise() and
> > > > > process_madvise() entry level code path to do such batched tlb flushes,
> > > > > while the internal unmap logics do only gathering of the tlb entries to
> > > > > flush.
> > > >
> > > > Do real applications actually do madvise requests that span multiple
> > > > VMAs?  It just seems weird to me.  Like, each vma comes from a separate
> > > > call to mmap [1], so why would it make sense for an application to
> > > > call madvise() across a VMA boundary?
> > >
> > > I had the same question. If this happens in an app, I would assume that a
> > > single MADV_DONTNEED call would usually not span multiples VMAs, and if it
> > > does, not that many (and that often) that we would really care about it.
> >
> > IMHO madvise() is just an add-on and the real motivation behind this
> > series is your next point.
> >
> > >
> > > OTOH, optimizing tlb flushing when using a vectored MADV_DONTNEED version
> > > would make more sense to me. I don't recall if process_madvise() allows for
> > > that already, and if it does, is this series primarily tackling optimizing
> > > that?
> >
> > Yes process_madvise() allows that and that is what SJ has benchmarked
> > and reported in the cover letter. In addition, we are adding
> > process_madvise() support in jemalloc which will land soon.
> >
> 
> Feels like me adjusting that to allow for batched usage for guard regions
> has opened up unexpected avenues, which is really cool to see :)
> 
> I presume the usage is intended for PIDFD_SELF usage right?

Yes.

> 
> At some point we need to look at allowing larger iovec size. This was
> something I was planning to look at at some point, but my workload is
> really overwhelming + that's low priority for me so happy for you guys to
> handle that if you want.
> 
> Can discuss at lsf if you guys will be there also :)

Yup, we will be there and will be happy to discuss.

Also the draft of jemalloc using process_madvise() is at [1].

[1] https://github.com/jemalloc/jemalloc/pull/2794