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From: Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Cc: "Sebastian Andrzej Siewior" <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Vladimir Davydov" <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	"Waiman Long" <longman@redhat.com>,
	"Roman Gushchin" <guro@fb.com>,
	"Shakeel Butt" <shakeelb@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/6] mm/memcg: Disable threshold event handlers on PREEMPT_RT
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2023 12:30:33 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xhsmhy1ofnxna.mognet@vschneid.remote.csb> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZACHa4wrtwpQbmP2@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On 02/03/23 12:24, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Thu 02-03-23 10:18:31, Valentin Schneider wrote:
>> On 02/03/23 08:45, Michal Hocko wrote:
>> > On Wed 01-03-23 18:23:19, Valentin Schneider wrote:
> [...]
>> >> I want cgroupv1 to die as much as the next person, but in that specific
>> >> situation I kinda need cgroupv1 to behave somewhat sanely on RT with
>> >> threshold events :/
>> >
>> > Could you expand on the usecase?
>> >
>>
>> In this case it's just some middleware leveraging memcontrol cgroups and
>> setting up callbacks for in-cgroup OOM events. This is a supported feature
>> in cgroupv2, so this isn't a problem of cgroupv1 vs cgroupv2 feature
>> parity, but rather one of being in a transitional phase where the
>> middleware itself hasn't fully migrated to using cgroupv2.
>
> How is this related to the RT kernel config? memcg OOM vs any RT
> assumptions do not really get along well AFAICT.
>

Yep. AIUI the tasks actually relying on RT guarantees DTRT (at least
regarding memory allocations, or lack thereof), but other non-RT-reliant
tasks on other CPUs come and go, hence the memcg involvement.

> --
> Michal Hocko
> SUSE Labs



  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-02 12:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-26 20:41 [PATCH v5 0/6] mm/memcg: Address PREEMPT_RT problems instead of disabling it Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-26 20:41 ` [PATCH v5 1/6] mm/memcg: Revert ("mm/memcg: optimize user context object stock access") Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-26 20:41 ` [PATCH v5 2/6] mm/memcg: Disable threshold event handlers on PREEMPT_RT Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2023-03-01 18:23   ` Valentin Schneider
2023-03-02  7:45     ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-02 10:18       ` Valentin Schneider
2023-03-02 11:24         ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-02 12:30           ` Valentin Schneider [this message]
2023-03-02 12:56             ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-02 14:34               ` Valentin Schneider
2023-03-02 19:52                 ` Valentin Schneider
2022-02-26 20:41 ` [PATCH v5 3/6] mm/memcg: Protect per-CPU counter by disabling preemption on PREEMPT_RT where needed Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-28  8:05   ` Michal Hocko
2022-02-28 11:08     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-28 11:23       ` Michal Hocko
2022-02-28 12:35         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-26 20:41 ` [PATCH v5 4/6] mm/memcg: Opencode the inner part of obj_cgroup_uncharge_pages() in drain_obj_stock() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-26 20:41 ` [PATCH v5 5/6] mm/memcg: Protect memcg_stock with a local_lock_t Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-28  8:06   ` Michal Hocko
2022-02-26 20:41 ` [PATCH v5 6/6] mm/memcg: Disable migration instead of preemption in drain_all_stock() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior

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