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From: Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 11/14] context-tracking: Introduce work deferral infrastructure
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2023 12:31:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xhsmhsfa1uvi8.mognet@vschneid.remote.csb> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230705223956.GD2813335@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 06/07/23 00:39, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 05, 2023 at 07:12:53PM +0100, Valentin Schneider wrote:
>
>> Note: A previous approach by PeterZ [1] used an extra bit in
>> context_tracking.state to flag the presence of deferred callbacks to
>> execute, and the actual callbacks were stored in a separate atomic
>> variable.
>>
>> This meant that the atomic read of context_tracking.state was sufficient to
>> determine whether there are any deferred callbacks to execute.
>> Unfortunately, it presents a race window. Consider the work setting
>> function as:
>>
>>   preempt_disable();
>>   seq = atomic_read(&ct->seq);
>>   if (__context_tracking_seq_in_user(seq)) {
>>        /* ctrl-dep */
>>        atomic_or(work, &ct->work);
>>        ret = atomic_try_cmpxchg(&ct->seq, &seq, seq|CT_SEQ_WORK);
>>   }
>>   preempt_enable();
>>
>>   return ret;
>>
>> Then the following can happen:
>>
>>   CPUx                                             CPUy
>>                                                   CT_SEQ_WORK \in context_tracking.state
>>     atomic_or(WORK_N, &ct->work);
>>                                                    ct_kernel_enter()
>>                                                      ct_state_inc();
>>     atomic_try_cmpxchg(&ct->seq, &seq, seq|CT_SEQ_WORK);
>>
>> The cmpxchg() would fail, ultimately causing an IPI for WORK_N to be
>> sent. Unfortunately, the work bit would remain set, and it can't be sanely
>> cleared in case another CPU set it concurrently - this would ultimately
>> lead to a double execution of the callback, one as a deferred callback and
>> one in the IPI. As not all IPI callbacks are idempotent, this is
>> undesirable.
>
> So adding another atomic is arguably worse.
>
> The thing is, if the NOHZ_FULL CPU is actually doing context transitions
> (SYSCALLs etc..) then everything is fundamentally racy, there is no
> winning that game, we could find the remote CPU is in-kernel, send an
> IPI, the remote CPU does return-to-user and receives the IPI.
>
> And then the USER is upset... because he got an IPI.
>

Yeah, that part is inevitably racy.

The thing I was especially worried about was the potential double
executions (once in IPI, again in deferred work). It's not /too/ bad as the
only two deferred callbacks I'm introducing here are costly-but-stateless,
but IMO is a bad foundation.

But it seems like we can reuse the existing atomic and squeeze some bits in
there, so let's see how that goes :-)



  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-06 11:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-05 18:12 [RFC PATCH 00/14] context_tracking,x86: Defer some IPIs until a user->kernel transition Valentin Schneider
2023-07-05 18:12 ` [RFC PATCH 01/14] tracing/filters: Dynamically allocate filter_pred.regex Valentin Schneider
2023-07-05 18:12 ` [RFC PATCH 02/14] tracing/filters: Enable filtering a cpumask field by another cpumask Valentin Schneider
2023-07-05 18:54   ` Steven Rostedt
2023-07-05 18:12 ` [RFC PATCH 03/14] tracing/filters: Enable filtering a scalar field by a cpumask Valentin Schneider
2023-07-05 19:00   ` Steven Rostedt
2023-07-05 18:12 ` [RFC PATCH 04/14] tracing/filters: Enable filtering the CPU common " Valentin Schneider
2023-07-05 18:12 ` [RFC PATCH 05/14] tracing/filters: Document cpumask filtering Valentin Schneider
2023-07-05 18:12 ` [RFC PATCH 06/14] objtool: Flesh out warning related to pv_ops[] calls Valentin Schneider
2023-07-05 18:12 ` [RFC PATCH 07/14] objtool: Warn about non __ro_after_init static key usage in .noinstr Valentin Schneider
2023-07-05 18:12 ` [RFC PATCH 08/14] BROKEN: context_tracking: Make context_tracking_key __ro_after_init Valentin Schneider
2023-07-05 20:41   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-07-05 18:12 ` [RFC PATCH 09/14] x86/kvm: Make kvm_async_pf_enabled __ro_after_init Valentin Schneider
2023-07-05 18:12 ` [RFC PATCH 10/14] x86/sev-es: Make sev_es_enable_key __ro_after_init Valentin Schneider
2023-07-05 18:12 ` [RFC PATCH 11/14] context-tracking: Introduce work deferral infrastructure Valentin Schneider
2023-07-05 22:23   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-07-05 22:41     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-07-06  9:53       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-07-06 10:01     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-07-06 11:30     ` Valentin Schneider
2023-07-06 11:40       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-07-06 16:39         ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-06 18:05           ` Valentin Schneider
2023-07-06 11:55     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-07-05 22:39   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-07-06 11:31     ` Valentin Schneider [this message]
2023-07-05 18:12 ` [RFC PATCH 12/14] context_tracking,x86: Defer kernel text patching IPIs Valentin Schneider
2023-07-05 18:12 ` [RFC PATCH 13/14] context_tracking,x86: Add infrastructure to defer kernel TLBI Valentin Schneider
2023-07-05 18:12 ` [RFC PATCH 14/14] x86/mm, mm/vmalloc: Defer flush_tlb_kernel_range() targeting NOHZ_FULL CPUs Valentin Schneider
2023-07-05 18:48 ` [RFC PATCH 00/14] context_tracking,x86: Defer some IPIs until a user->kernel transition Nadav Amit
2023-07-06 11:29   ` Valentin Schneider
2023-07-05 19:03 ` Steven Rostedt
2023-07-06 11:30   ` Valentin Schneider

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